Cornering Pt 2
piedi di formaggioSubscriber
You’re not using the correct technique.
1) outside foot down & push down
2) inside hand down & push down
3) don’t look at the corner whilst you’re in it – look at the apex as you approach, once in the corner look at your exit
EDIT: This is what works for me after going to see JediPosted 5 years agopleaderwilliamsMember
On long corners it can help to have your inside foot off the pedal, and up by the front wheel. I imagine that I am trying to touch my fork dropout with my inside foot, and it helps to get weight over the front wheel. You should probably be able to get your weight forward enough without doing this, but I do find that it helps sometimes.
Posted 5 years ago
Earlier I asked about leaning the rider or the bike more in corners and consensus said lean the bike more. I tried it and it really works.
However now I’m having trouble with the front wheel washing out. What are the likely causes?
I’m riding a rigid 29er with NN 2.4″ at quite low pressure.Posted 5 years ago
Like the video in this thread?Posted 5 years ago
I like making sure my outside elbow is high (see Fabien’s vid clip) and the twisting of the hips really does increase control.
The front wheel washing out means you have exceeded traction, the Lopes/McCormac book explains that weighting a tyre increases traction (it sounds obvious) so getting that body weight forward increases this. The book also explains leaning the bike more allows you to unlean if needed to adjust traction, you can’t unlean so easily if your angle matches the bike.
Bent arms give you room to extend, you especially need to be more articulated as you are the suspension. Your cone of movement is the range of mobility you have independent of the bike. It radiates from the BB up, bigger cone=more control.
Countersteering to set up for a corner is a subtle thing to do that can help too.
So many variables! I like that cornering is something that can always be improved upon, regardless of your discipline or ability.Posted 5 years agoscottishbadgerMember
I’ve got a 29er and was really suffering with front wheel wash out. After a trip to Jedi and lowering and flipping my stem I now have far more control. Jedi sorted out my body position, looking and confidence and the adjustment to set up was the icing on the cake.Posted 5 years agoD0NKSubscriber
counter steering, anyone do that much? On berms possibly but I find it seems to upset the handling of the bike on loose corners so don’t bother much.
edit don’t do leg out much either, slow down a little bit more then pedal straight out of the corner, no having to clip back in before getting the power down againPosted 5 years ago
so now cornering is specific to 29 ers and rigids?
you lot do talk some shite.
more weight over front wheel is indeed correct. leg out is obviously a joke, save for ragging your bike round fire roads or flying into berms too damn fast.
The front wheel washing out means you have exceeded traction
mindblowing.Posted 5 years agoalex222Member
First you must look at the coner then you must visualise the corner in your minds eye. Then you must visualise yourself riding through the corner in your minds eye (also). Then when approaching the corner you must close your eyes and re watch what you just visualised. Then open your eyes and you will have traveled through space and time to just on the exit of the corner. Be sure to do a double fist pump at the apex also.Posted 5 years agothisisnotaspoonMember
the twisting of the hips really does increase control.
Ignoring all the petty squabbling, this really works for me, point your cock where you want to be going and look at the exit then allong next bit of trail. Doing this automaticaly puts your outside leg down, leans the bike into the gap you’ve just created under your inside leg, unweights your inside foot, straightens your inside arm and raises your outside elbow.
You could try and do all that seperately, but just moving the hips seems to shift everything else without having to think so much.
And looking at that pic of the DHers Vs Hart, the difference is they’re still hovering over their saddles, he’s twisted his body and now the saddle is somewhere under his thigh rather than his crotch.
That and lots of practice, after a few rides really struggling riding in a new area (which had more corners and less techy stuff) I took the BMX out the shed and did laps of the garden (which pretty big and has a fair slope to it) kept cornering untill I was drifting both wheels, digging the inside pedal into the ground and dismounting so gracefuly I was barely jogging off the bike when eventualy the laws of physics dictated the cornering not technique. That and riding pump tracks with really tight berms teaches you to look out the exit not over the top.Posted 5 years ago
It’s a tad annoying when you try to give help and someone ridicules it without appearing to have grasped what was being said. But it is just the internet.
I washed out a fair bit when I got my rigid (69er) and then learned to be more progressive when shifting my bodyweight. Simply being front heavy does not fix the problem.
I’m taking my cone elsewhere, get your foot out son!Posted 5 years ago
im sorry. can’t help myself, been a stressfull few weeks.
if it helps, i agree with what you were saying, just my fingers couldn’t resist.
fairly sure yours (and everyone elses) advice boils down to the same.
-weight over the front, elbows up, bent to give you a bit more of an agressive stance
-get out the saddle and get space for the bike to move round in
-get bike leaned over and weight outside pedal
-stay off brakes
-possibly twist hips a bit.
and fnally ensure that you have your cock facing into the cone of love, and all will be well.Posted 5 years ago
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