It is a reference purely to his classical education at what was one of UK’s best schools (KES B’ham)

and here was me calling you an elitist

I know he never said it but z-11 comment refers to the whip hand comment I assume so was accurate in the point he made …did i just say that.

The day after the last one left, she was awakened at 7 a.m. by two Negroes who wanted to use her phone to contact their employer. When she refused, as she would have refused any stranger at such an hour, she was abused and feared she would have been attacked but for the chain on her door. Immigrant families have tried to rent rooms in her house, but she always refused. Her little store of money went, and after paying her rates, she had less than £2 per week. She went to apply for a rate reduction and was seen by a young girl, who on hearing she had a seven-roomed house, suggested she should let part of it. When she said the only people she could get were Negroes, the girl said ‘racial prejudice won’t get you anywhere in this country’. So she went home.

The telephone is her lifeline. Her family pay the bill, and help her out as best they can. Immigrants have offered to buy her house – at a price which the prospective landlord would be able to recover from his tenants in weeks, or at most in a few months. She is becoming afraid to go out.

Windows are broken. She finds excreta pushed through her letterbox. When she goes to the shops, she is followed by children, charming, wide-grinning piccaninnies. They cannot speak English, but one word they know. ‘Racialist’, they chant. When the new Race Relations Bill is passed, this woman is convinced she will go to prison. And is she so wrong? I begin to wonder.
all here for the brave
http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/rivers_blood2.html

the reactionary fear of little englanders is still there as they try to hold on to some fanciful view of their mongrel race as some sort of indigenous aboriginal homogeneous breed when they just mean WHITE. It like they dont now where three lions and england comes from, a fact I am sure could be remedied by the high calibre of education enoch benefited from

This whole business with Plod investigating Facebook, Twitter etc etc

Really? FFS, can’t everyone just grow up.

The amount of time that public sector professionals are forced to waste on this kind of he said/she said bollocks or people being delicate little flowers over some halfwit’s comments. It’s like STW or something.

I was just wondering what other crimes are not crimes because it is on the Interweb? Child porn??

@ Grum the only racial element to is it that it can only really refer tor a black man

IIRC the correct term to a White person is well here have a picture

Well if you want to consider Birmingham grammar schools “elitist”, ok then!

The school’s declared aim is:

‘to make available to the widest possible range of able boys an educational experience that is the richest, most diverse and most exciting possible in an atmosphere that provides support, encouragement and care for everyone, pupils and staff, here. We want our pupils to love coming here and to go from here prepared for all that human life has to offer.’

These words are not carelessly chosen. We do actually believe in excitement and care. We are also deeply committed to making this opportunity available to all, as our extensive and growing provision of Assisted Places shows.

You decide!

How is it a racist comment?

Really?

It’s saying you’re white inside, an insult, white = bad. It’s as racist as you can get.

Edit:

You really need to mix with some black people and hear them use the term in context.

wow the Chief Master [ what a common title eh ] of the £10 k per term school gives some nice spin a to show he cares so much that the majority of their pupils still pay and they make money…GAWD BLESS EM

I take it all back it is positively egalitarian ..I mean what else can you think if a fee paying school where 30 % get assistance and 10 % of places are free [ if off course you pass the entrance exam which costs £25 and is non refundable – its is free if your parents are unemployed though] if you are bright enough.

I have decided thanks now what is your view of a fee paying selective school with an entrance exam? I assume we both recognise the rhetorical

Well as I was born and grew up in its shadows and have parent’s friends who benefitted directly from its more generous endowments years ago, please excuse me if I draw a different conclusion. But feel free to make jibes at a school that demonstrates among the highest standards of academic excellence in the country – its an easy target of course, bit like a choc ice! Good night.

edit for an edit: so £25 is an extravagant investment in a child’s education. Less than one MTB tyre. Good grief! Any way, apologies for dragging this off topic.

Back to non-racist footballers…

Tucker, that’s an ‘interesting’ interpretation. 🙂
Sure you’re not reading too much into it?
It could be construed that way, but I’m not convinced that that was the intention of the remark.

Interesting Guardian article here regarding the racism question.

Interesting final paragraph there Rusty (well interest article full stop).

But feel free to make jibes at a school that demonstrates among the highest standards of academic excellence in the country

Like the rich would pay 10 k a year if it did not get better results they are rich not stupid. I am not having a jibe I am simply saying it is elitist – and you are left with emotive appeals and some spin from the Chief Master to counter this or you could just look at the admission stats.

an extravagant investment in a child’s education

of course not, if you can afford it, but that is rather my point.

It seems fine across the board for one black guy to call another a ****, so I guess you can’t be racist to your own race, it has been decided, by someone, somewhere.

or dogs

It seems fine across the board for one black guy to call another a ****

As ever though, context is key. It’s just a word made of six letters but the lips that speak it and the context in which it’s spoken or written are what give the word its power. One assumes that the great majority of uses of the word between black people are not in a racist context.

If people express controversial opinions or are offensive in public, is it suddenly trivial because they happen to do it on Facebook?

I think the problem here is not that the opinion is more or less offensive or controversial depending on which medium carries it, it’s that the criminal law shouldn’t be used for prosecuting people for making controversial or offensive comments.

It seems fine across the board for one black guy to call another a ****,

It might seem that way to you, but that’s not true. There’s no one single opinion “across the board”.

Its alright, some of his best friends are black.

well, i lolled.

It’s saying you’re white inside, an insult, white = bad. It’s as racist as you can get.

Surely it’s about being fake and not true to yourself rather than any slight on white people?

The only way in which I think it’s dubious is it seems to be making the assumption that certain types of behaviour are inherently ‘black’ and others are ‘white’ – whereas largely it’s not really a great idea to generalise.

Otherwise when black people listen to Indie or Classical music you could say they are not being true to themselves, which is obviously pretty silly.

the reactionary fear of little englanders is still there as they try to hold on to some fanciful view of their mongrel race as some sort of indigenous aboriginal homogeneous breed when they just mean WHITE.

What a truly delightful individual you really are. Thanks for speaking for the english peoples, they’d be lost without you.

I dont like racist little englanders …feel free to defend them as much as you like.

Junky you’ve excelled yourself this time boy – displaying so many personality disorders all in one thread. And you’ve taken the bait twice! Hats off to you sir. 😀

So let me get this straight you started a thread on this which got pulled, you then called the moderators racist and I assume spent some time under the ban hammer/on the naughty step.
Your first action on your return was to start a thread on the same issue.
You then post up an act of smug self aggrandisement about your trolling abilities whilst doing ad hominems on me for my “disorders”.
I suggest you look a little closer to home for issues tbh.

No Junkyard you are STILL talking complete nonsense go and have a lie down 😀

My account of what happened is still true even though you have done another weak ad hominem

In your loony head yes I’m sure 😆

You dont need to be a “loony” to recognise your ad hominems and my account still remains true despite another one. Anyway enough of the playground antics for me if not for you

*pops in, has look around, sees enfht self-pwn not once, not twice but three times. Closes door quietly and leaves*

Junky did you once go by the name of RudeBoy? 😆

Make that four times. 😆

Why not run with that idea, it is as convincing as anything else you have said.
DD you are meant to be laughing with him not at him.