Hill billy t9 is a very good tyre.

I fitted an argotal dh super soft on the front last week, it’s pretty good, it doesn’t feel wooden like maxxis doubledown/dh tyres can, it feels really supple and nicely damped, not pingy. It has loads of grip, you can really lean on it, even when it’s wet.

It doesn’t feel too slow rolling either, but I am using it on an ebike albeit a low powered ebike (trek fuel exe).

Would recommend.

That’s good news, thanks bikesandboots! I guess I’ll hold fire and get a trail front soft when they come along.

I’d emailed Conti about compounds since I was considering stocking up on Der Baron Projekts while I still can. The response didn’t say anything to my other question about Trail Softs, but the way it was worded was enough to get me googling “tyre name + trail soft”.

Ah, now I know why the OP started this thread!
Not the Kryptotal, but the Argotal, on the rear. In the wet. Wet leaves, surface mud, chalk and wet roots at QECP. Had to get out, had this new bargain tyre and it seriously made the ride more fun than it had the right to be!
Fitted tubeless in minutes on the Emtb’s WTB rim, pumped up with Lidl pump, one big PANG! and done.
Wish I had the dosh to grab a few more while they are £34
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/p/continental-argotal-trail-mtb-tyre-endurance?color=black&wheelSizeWidth=29%22+%7C+2.6%22

Mmmm the boy has been running the Argotal recently and happy. Just fitted him a kryptotal in the 29 rear tonight for upcoming race.

I may get 2 of those if good though got the Fuel , although I have bought 6 tyres this week already

2 Argotal super soft DH
2 kryptotal super soft DH
2 magic Mary.

One of the lads bought the Endurance version of the Argotal and fitted it for Peaks ride this weekend, along with a Krypto rear… He was absolutely blown away. So i ordered 2 Argotals in Endurance to go along with the other pile of rubber i’ve bought this week.

forgot, I took an exciting photo on Saturday 😀

One professional review of the argotal that I read was not very complimentary about the endurance compound. They loved the soft and super soft compounds though.

I went with supersoft, and it is brilliant

Why oh why cant we have lightweight tyres in soft compounds ? after initially being a sceptic I am now totally sold on the benefits of tyre inserts (Tannus are bloody amazing). I used to get loads of pinch flats and ruin hundreds of tyres but now im convinced I would never have another pinch again even if I ran XC tyres with no pressure. So why do I have to have these daft car tyres just to get a soft compound ?! I get some people (probably most people) dont run inserts but with all the different brands and all the godzillion different combinations that are out there I cant believe there isn’t room in the market for this tyre!!! Just bought 2 Argotals in trail compound out of stubbornness – one is going on the front….will report back if I survive the winter. Rant over.

Would be interested to know how draggy it is in SuperSoft, is it full DH/SS ?

I was thinking of fitting it but was worried it’d be proper slow and draggy, i’d be running this on my manual bike.

after initially being a sceptic I am now totally sold on the benefits of tyre inserts (Tannus are bloody amazing)

Continental say NO…. No no no…. They change the way the tyre reacts due to changing the air volume (i think), but either way, according to Continental, don’t run any inserts. I know Ethan wasn’t running them on his GT this year and suffered very few issues.

I’ve been running Kryptotal DH on my new bike and they’re pretty draggy and *feel* heavy when pedalling in sloppy/muddy conditions, whereas in summer they were fine. Unless I’m riding uplift then the endurance/soft seem a good compromise if you need to pedal. Have two Argotals on order to get me through winter.

Continental say NO…. No no no…. They change the way the tyre reacts due to changing the air volume (i think),

They wouldn’t be mush use if they didnt change how the tyre reacts 🙂

Would be interested to know how draggy it is in SuperSoft, is it full DH/SS ?

I’ll prefix this by saying its gone on an ebike, a low power ebike – trek fuel exe, but still an abike all the same.

I fitted the DH super soft on the front (with no inserts). It doesnt feel draggy – and the battery range has not noticably decreased. There’s two things I noticed immediately, one is loads of grip – almost like dry levels of grip. The other is the damping of the tyre, you dont get any pinginess from it,no harshness, its a very well damped feeling.

I’m a total convert to inserts. I love the effect they have on the handling and damping of a tyre.

I’d be fitting my Rimpact inserts if I bought a Kryptotal/Argotal combo. I didn’t realise Continental had forbidden them.

It doesnt feel draggy

I missed the edit window – but was going to add that it doesnt feel draggy compared to the maxxis assegai exo+ in maxx terra compound that I had fitted before the argotal

I only discovered the Magic Mary last winter after several years of running a shorty and now I have to change? 🙂

I’ve just put a new one on the front, an ADDIX Ultrasoft with the Super DH casing, it’s heavy! But I didn’t notice the extra weight on yesterdays pedally ride over the Peak district. It worked really well in some of the worst conditions I’ve ridden.

I’m coming to the conclusion that DH casing (on the front) along with supper grippy rubber is the way to go. I was able to run it with lower pressures than I normally would without it squirming, the grip was by far better than anything else I tried previously.

Now it looks like the MM is being usurped!

I’m changing up a wheel size in the coming month or two so looking for tyres, bookmarked for feedback!

Continental are due to be bringing out the enduro case in supersoft.

IMO they are a step up from the Maxxis offering, much better levels of grip, wear is much better (I’ll be lucky if I get 12 weeks out of a DHR on the back, and we are talking no sideknobs left, centre section is still good to go!)

Currently have an Argotal DH SS up front and a Kryptotal DH S on the rear on a Kenevo SL, no real difference to the range compared to Maxxis. No need to run inserts either.

Would be interested to know how draggy it is in SuperSoft, is it full DH/SS ?

Maybe read some of the previous posts or even fit them and try it for yourself…

One mans draggy is another mans fine to do huge days with.

I thought I read there maybe a trail / soft coming out as well. Would be a good trail tyre on the front Kryptotal. Maybe like an exo+ 3c maxx terra sort of thing. But perhaps a bit burlier than an Assegai knob height wise.

I’ve just fitted the Trail compound/Endurance to the Trek for this weekends ride. Not because i’m unhappy with the Hillbilly, but just to experiment with this and see how it feels.

julians
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One professional review of the argotal that I read was not very complimentary about the endurance compound. They loved the soft and super soft compounds though.

TBH I just don’t think it makes much sense for the argotal- the soft isn’t exactly draggy considering what the tyre’s for, and tbh with the knobbliness of the tyre I think most people would go softer rather than harder, and if you want harder you’d also go less knobbly. Or put it another way,it’s like a shorty, if a shorty is the right answer then maxxterra is probably the wrong compound.

I don’t know about that comment 100% – I think with knobbly mud spikes it’s often the tread itself finding the grip digging in – as much as the compound. An old Hillbilly Gripton I had (old rubbish rubber) worked amazingly in the mud. It’s just when it found roots and rocks the crap compound got found out.

So for muddy bridleway sort of stuff the Argotal endurance may work – just for steep tech muddy and rooty / rocky stuff I’d want soft or ultra / super soft.

With the front Kryptotal I’m less convinced on the endurance compound – I’ve gone for a soft one in enduro casing now to save weight over the DH one bit with better rubber than endurance.

I think the endurance compound is more suited to a rear Kryptotal probably – like running the equivalent of a Dual compound maxxis dhr2 on the rear. Rolls a touch faster and lasts longer.