- Comfort road bikes & crossers.
Have a look at the geometry for the different frames. I found the secteur was by far the most relaxed. It’ll take 35s, has the same wheels as the specialized cx bikes and is surprisingly forgiving on rough stuff.
The inner front ring on cx bikes is significantly bigger than a road bike, and the outer ring significantly smaller. Which I can only see as being crap on the road.Posted 4 years agoSTATOMember
Top tube might be shorter,
Only if you buy based on a ‘size’ rather than fit.
OP, if your riding bridleways you are not the market for a road bike. Get a touring bike or cross bike. That said neither of those will be as smooth as a top end carbon road bike. Decide what you want to ride on first before trying to decide what bike you want.Posted 4 years agoantigeeMember
moving towards being spoilt for choice this over on road cc looks goodPosted 4 years ago
looks like there is a trend to road/gravel bikes with decent clearance and all day geometry love my kinesis pro6 for riding all sort of stuff but a long day is hard work for someone in their fifties
saving up for one of these
Being a fan of comfort and somewhat adverse to pain, I like the sound of these bikes. However salesmen’s hype is one thing and real experiences are another.Posted 4 years ago
I’ve heard of (in no particular order) Cannondale Synapse, Giant Defy, Spesh Secteur, Trek Domane. I note that the Trek even has a minimal suspension/flex design feature and I followed Rocketdog’s link to reviews of Domane and Madone. What do you think of these and are any of you particularly impressed with offerings from other manufacturers?
I’m also wondering (assuming you’re not too competitive) whether you’d suffer serious disadvantages by choosing a cyclo-cross bike instead of a comfort road bike. I think we’d agreed you need wider, tougher tyres to ride down a bridleway or similar unmade road, so are there comfort road bikes out there with clearances for 28 and 32c tyres? Have any of you ridden both ‘crossers’ and road bikes on sportives – how did you feel they compared?
Let’s hear your experiences, opinions, and have your links to reviews.
big topic of conversation in our office. commutes around us have a mix of fast road and rough cycle-track, what’s wanted is a relaxed geometry curly bar bike with tough disc braked wheels that you can put a 23 tyre on.
that Genesis looks very close to what we all want…Posted 4 years ago
I wouldn’t describe either of my cross bikes as ‘comfort bikes’, to think that they are suggests a complete misunderstanding of what a cross bike
Unfortunately, the days of the cross bike being a thing you kill yourself on for a hour, or for 3 and a half hours (3 Peaks style), are long gone. A goodly number of them are weighty road bikes with a bit more clearance to sell to people who think it’s cool…Posted 4 years agocraigxxlMember
I have the Trek Domane 4.3 on 23c tyres. Fantastic bike, responsive but comfortable too. It’s more comfortable than the Pompetamine on 32c and a whole lot lighter too. I changed the wheels from the standard as they felt a bit flexi to some Hope/Mavic Open Pro’s. This is probably down to my weight more than the original wheels.Posted 4 years ago
Not trendy though are they, tourers?
Hell of a shame really.
That Genesis looks useful, but I wonder why they’ve not moved the disc to the chainstay like they have on next years Croix?
Bit pricey for 653 too.
OP, have a gander at the Spa Cycles Roughstuff Ti & The Surly Trucker.
Thorn make some nice bikes too.
The Pinnacle Arkose and Boardman crossers look superb vfm and get great reviews.
Also, Druidh has a Van Nic which is lovely – bet it cost a bomb though.Posted 4 years ago
Crikey & ap:
I agree, this new breed aren’t traditional cross bikes at all.
They play with the imagery and sell the dream.
But then again, they’re 100% more useful to most people than an ultra racey, hardcore crosser.Posted 4 years ago
And how many ‘mountain bikes’ actually see a mountain?
But then again, they’re 100% more useful to most people than an ultra racey, hardcore crosser
I do agree with this; my crosser had no bottle bosses, no other brazed on bits, no mudguard eyes and so on.
However, it does make a jolly good rant and allows me to approach that point at which I get to use the phrase ‘Back in my day’…Posted 4 years ago
Strangely my best cross bike actually does have mudguard eyelets and 2 sets of bottle cage bosses. Still built up at 17lbs though with clinchers. I’ve used this for warm weather training camps and things like RvV and Paris Roubaix with no problems keeping up (until my fitness gets in the way).Posted 4 years ago
Although if I want to ride a heavy, odd handling disc braked road bike that takes 28c road tyres and full mudguards I ride my Trek Portland.
A 72 year old of my acquaintance has recently bought a Paul Milnes crosser, basic frame adapted with a nice big cassette and a set of comfy tyres.
He says it’s nicer to ride than his Orrell, Colnago and Bob Jackson.
Cost him about £700 all in and blurs the lines very successfuly between a hardcore crosser and a comfy bridleway Sustrans cruiser.
He’s hard as nails though. I hide if I see him coming when I’m out on the road bike.
I can’t cope with the humiliation.
ap, I fancied a Portland myself.
Odd that Trek dropped it so soon.
They seem to have replaced it with something heavier, a worse spec and a higher price.Posted 4 years agoglobaltiMember
I have a Spesh Roubaix SL3, which is light, stiff, fast, handles superbly and is extremely comfortable. I only ride it in dry conditions.
For winter I have a Spesh Tricross disc. It is also very comfortable but it has a more upright riding position and is heavier with 32mm tyres, hence it averages about 1 mph slower over the same rides. It is also pretty good off road, it beats the mountain bikes up hills and on the flat but is a nightmare down anything rocky. It is also excellent when loaded up with a rack and panniers and it takes mudguards easily. It would be too heavy to race though.Posted 4 years agoGrahamSSubscriber
I bought my “not a crosser” crosser specifically because I was looking for a drop-barred bike that could keep up with roadies on the road, but was robust enough to take bridleways in its stride, with disc brakes for wet weather use, a slightly more relaxed geometry, clearance for 28mm tyres and mud, and eyelets for mudguards and a rack.
And yeah, I doubt it will ever actually see a real Cross Race in my hands.Posted 4 years ago
I was brought up just down the road from Neil’s.
Is the shop still open?Posted 4 years ago
Went in to order a frame about 10 years ago but he was only building a few for people he knew well at that point.
Still see a few being ridden round here.
My budget was always more realistically suited to Moston Cycles.
I was brought up just down the road from Neil’s.
Is the shop still open?
I rode with his sons, doing cross and road racing. The shop is still open, just, and he was talking about an attempt to get the 3 peaks record from John Rawnsley, but he had to wait for his hip operation to settle down. Hard man, and not only when asking for discount!Posted 4 years agoTiRedMember
There are comfort bikes and comfort bikes. Defy is really a comfortable race bike. I race mine (to modest success). It feels like my other race bike, a TCR. The cannondale cross bike is lovely, and the geometry is very similar to the CAAD8 and Synapse. So a change of tyres and it will feel sportive-friendly. You’ll manage on the gearing, but may need a smaller casette.
Or buy a Dawes Galaxy… All the bike you could need, but it would hinder you in a race. Personally, I’m not sold on steel Genesis cross bikes. They are rather portly compared with aluminium offerings from Cannondale, Kona and Giant.
For normal use, I’d give disks a miss too, that way you could have a set of best sportive wheels with 23c tyred and a small block casette.Posted 4 years agoedhornbySubscriber
I’m not convinced by all this ‘sportive all day bike’ stuff really, as most of them just have a tall head tube to put the bars higher. Those zertz inserts in the Roubaix frame ate complete bolleaux… Bigger comfort gains can be achieved by getting the fit right, choosing tyres and pressures well, double wrap bartape.Posted 4 years agoAndySubscriber
30% off Peregrines by any chance Sam?
+1 to that 😉
There seems to be 3 types of bikes on this thread:
Cross bikes for racers
Bridleway bikes that are a bit quicker than a hybrid/29er
More relaxed road bikes.
Seems that the bridleway bike brigade are using cross bikes because there isn’t much else out there that fits. I’m building up a Croix der Fer at the moment because I want a bike I can go off and do 50 miles in the Chilterns and go a bit faster on the road, yet still ride all the bridleways I ride on my mountain bike. Its also something I can still get to work in 35 minutes on yet do a longer more fun ride on the way home. Its currently 23 1/2 lbs but that’s with BB7s and wheels that were last used on my Sultan round KirroughtreePosted 4 years agoAndySubscriber
Oh and I looked at the Vaya but the 60cm top tube is too long for me, whilst on the CDF the head tube is way too short so will be running 40mm – 50mm of spacers to get the bar the right height.
EDIT: Oh and shameless plug – I have a smaller CDF/Vapour frame for sale in the classifieds 😉Posted 4 years agoMrSynthpopMember
Having just ridden my “comfort” road bike (Bianchi Via Nirone 7 – relaxed “C2C” geometry) along a ten mile section of gravel towpath as part of a longer ride yesterday I would advise something like a cross bike with bigger tyres, to be fair I had 23c’s on (no other choice due to tyre buying error) but I’m feeling a little beaten up today, bike was fine but it was uncomfortable and even with the slightly bigger tyres it can accommodate I wouldn’t expect a massive improvement in comfort.Posted 4 years ago
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