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  • ilovemygears
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    so elf and move very slowly. Instead of communicating to me you’re view on the racial dived after life. You instead try and turn the question around by questioning the validity of my statement, that’s fine hear is the links see for youre self. But i like to do my own research from more than one source my self, so why dont you do the same and then explain to me you’re views on a racial dived after life… 🙂

    http://www.apologeticsindex.org/f02.html

    http://www.cultnews.com/?cat=169

    and good old wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong#Controversies

    read and get back to me 🙂

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    China’s so ‘not so bad’ that people are setting themselves on fire in celebration

    WARNING – Contains pics and links to videos showing a man setting himself on fire.

    chewkw
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    Falun Gong is prosecuted because they grew larger without towing the Dear Leaders ways of prosperity thy Dear Leaders and they did not manage to pay their dues to some regional Dear Leaders to establish “quan-si” (relationship) i.e. no money no religion. Pay dues good religion.

    As for afterlife etc if they pay Dear Leaders then we see the birth of a new religion … pay first otherwise shite.

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    racial dived after life

    Has no bearing on anything. He also believes he can fly and travel between dimensions. This doesn’t mean his followers are fair game, and the Chinese authorities didn’t step in because his abhorrent views, from your link:

    July 28: China issues an international arrest warrant against Li Hongzhi, accusing him of seeking to overturn the regime

    ilovemygears
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    racial dived after life
    Has no bearing on anything. He also believes he can fly and travel between dimensions. This doesn’t mean his followers are fair game

    yes…yes it does…

    Junkyard
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    from you link again

    According to Mr. Li, the offspring of mixed race unions are therefore “intellectually incomplete” or “with an incomplete body.” In such cases, only he, Master Li, can help and “take care of it” (i.e., resolve the “incomplete” state). However, that can be done only if “such a person wants to practice cultivation.”

    So they can get in it is just harder.
    Despite the quotations the swiss event these come is unreferenced.
    I am surprised that an anti-cult site is a bit anti – cult but kudos to you for finding an impartial source from which to form your own opinion.

    the full quote for refernece as it seems to contradict itself somewhat is

    In Mr. Li’s worldview mixed-race people are part of a plot, contrived by the evil extraterrestrials. “By mixing the races of humans, the aliens make humans cast off gods,” he told a gathering in Switzerland in 1998.

    “Mixed races” are supposedly excluded from the “truth” and “have lost their roots, as if nobody in the paradise will take care of them. They belong to nowhere, and no places would accept them…the higher levels do not recognize such a human race.”

    According to Mr. Li, the offspring of mixed race unions are therefore “intellectually incomplete” or “with an incomplete body.” In such cases, only he, Master Li, can help and “take care of it” (i.e., resolve the “incomplete” state). However, that can be done only if “such a person wants to practice cultivation.”
    Either he is a bit bonkers or piss poor reporting. i suspect a good measure of both tbh.

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    ilovemygears – Member

    racial dived after life
    Has no bearing on anything. He also believes he can fly and travel between dimensions. This doesn’t mean his followers are fair game

    yes…yes it does…

    So what other beliefs is it okay to imprison, subject to hard labour and kill people for?

    ilovemygears
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    So what other beliefs is it okay to imprison, subject to hard labour and kill people for?

    well mate i go grab a beer and make a list if you really want…

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    Kettle’s on, who’s got the biccies?

    ilovemygears
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    Either he is a bit bonkers or piss poor reporting. i suspect a good measure of both tbh.

    nope its what he really thinks, feel free to use ur own sources.. it **** up, totaly **** up, like all religion

    ilovemygears
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    So they can get in it is just harder.

    right tell me what you think about that particular belief.. 🙂 and then tell me why you think banning a group that preaches that sort of shit is a bad thing.

    Junkyard
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    nope its what he really thinks

    ah some more of your impartial critical thinking there glossing over the lack of references from the anti cult site but insisting it is true.
    you are neither very bright and apparently berefet of compassion.
    I pity you tbh.

    right tell me what you think about that particular belief..

    Well as stated I am not convinced the way you say it is indeed his belief. like almost every other religious claim from virginal births to reincarnation it is not something I agree with. However that is not the point of this discussion you were telling us why China was great not why he/religion was bonkers.

    and then tell me why you think banning a group that preaches that sort of shit is a bad thing

    Tell me what you hope to achieve by banning it ? As a history graduate I am sure you can catalogue all the examples form history where that approach has been succesfully used against a religion.

    Remember it is is middle class liberals who are always right yet you are confident [ arrogant ] enough in your own flimsy rhetoric [ just like China] to actually oppress people for your beliefs….tell me again why I should be more scared of them than you/China?

    DrJ
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    Elfin – that elephant statue is about a 5 minute walk from my flat. Do you reckon it’s safe to sleep with the light off??

    duntmatter
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    I think* this dude might actually learn something from this thread.

    *I mean ‘hope.’

    Elfinsafety
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    Do you reckon it’s safe to sleep with the light off??

    No, for it is in the darkness, when you cannot see, that They will come.

    DrJ
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    Do you reckon it’s safe to sleep with the light off??

    No, for it is in the darkness, when you cannot see, that They will come.

    Well, that’s a Carlsberg elephant, so I hope at least if They come they’ll bring beer!!

    ernie_lynch
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    ilovemygears – Member

    totaly **** up, like all religion

    😀 You really are priceless mate……..you come out with stuff like “totaly **** up, like all religion” and yet the first link you provide to condemn Falun Gong is written by an American religious nut !!!

    According to Apologetics Index :

    “The goal of AI-Renewal is to exhort and build up by promoting balance in teaching and practices, in an atmosphere of Christian fellowship. In doing so, we’re guided by the following Scriptures”

    Also according Apologetics Index, the Catholic Church is also a “cult” as well as Falun Gong ! Maybe all Catholics should be rounded up and imprisoned leaving just American Christian fundamentalists free to spread the bible ? !

    Your second link is provided by the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, a body founded the Politburo of the Communist Party of China…….so obviously a fair and unbiased source then ! 😀

    And finally the Wikipedia link which you provide states :

    “Li’s fantastic claims seem to be of little theological importance, since Falun Gong practice does not require unquestioning acceptance of all of Li’s teachings, and there is no overt emphasis on dogmatically enforcing orthodoxy”

    As Falun Gong is a global phenomena I can confirm this as I have attended Falun Gong sessions. The sessions involved only chi gung, and some rather difficult and challenging stances (simular to yoga) there was no mention of religion or anything religious whatsoever.

    I loved your reference to the “swastika” btw……….your desperate attempts to clutch at straws and scrape the bottom of the barrel is truly impressive ! 😀

    yossarian
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    There’s a serious lack of perspective and a genuine inability to construct a robust argument. Shame really cos there could be an interesting debate buried in here somewhere. Ilovemygears isn’t going to find it though, not enough mental rigour.

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    yoss’ – you mean he’s a bit thick? 😆

    Junkyard
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    Apparently he is a History graduate with a 2:1 😯

    yossarian
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    yoss’ – you mean he’s a bit thick?

    Young, opinionated and lazy I suspect. Not a crime, but does mean you’ll get your arse handed to you fairly frequently.

    Besides intelligence is no measure of character anyway. It’s a pity if someone is stupid and unpleasant though, what a waste!

    ernie_lynch
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    you mean he’s a bit thick?

    Slightly more than “a bit” I reckon……..I’ve just had another look at the first link he provides to back up his claims. This is their “Statement of Faith” :

    Statement of Faith

    So basically he’s asking us to believe a bunch of American Creationists who claim that the world was created in 6 days.

    The stupidity of the guy is breathtaking.

    tazzymtb
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    he could just be a very good stealth ninja troll* 😀

    *but i doubt it

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