Ch4 now ..Skint
This is the result of previous governments’ (note the plural) lack of support to heavy industries such as steel, shipbuilding and mining in the UK, and little or no investment in industries to replace the lost jobs.
As the Channel 4 website states: “At its height Scunthorpe’s steelworks employed 27,000 people. It now employs a sixth of that number.”
I wonder whether the same programme could have been made if the steel works still employed 20+ thousand people???Posted 4 years ago
There was nowt funny. Except the way that they all spoke as if their sinuses were blocked.
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It’s all pretty sad, we need to give these people the opportunity to contribute to society…. Need to start when they’re kids though.
Most of then were still kids thoughPosted 4 years agosideshowdaveMember
I grew up on that estate , it’s not half as bad as that program makes it out to be. There are a lot of good people who live in that area.Posted 4 years ago
Think evey town, every city will have it’s underclass which if film for 7 months a tv crew could pick out 3 hours of shock tv filler.
It’s a modern day freak show, rich people showing middle class people that its all poor people’s fault.JCLMember
You’ll love this sideshowdave.Posted 4 years agobruders338Member
Is this not the parents fault? reason i say this is because if i heard or saw my children acting like that i would soon be issuing a stern clip around the ear…
And also the government! because you cant blame people really as the government have no incentive for young people to work…. basically as it was said in the program if they have kids then the welfare system will pick up the pieces..
its gets to me though as a tax payer myselfPosted 4 years agoemszMember
Watched it last night, and TBH they don’t help themselves but half the time people like that are just trapped, I’ve got friends with a kid ( or two) and you can’t work if your on your own with a kid. No one to look after it, and no one will give you a job anyway.
Feel sorry for themPosted 4 years agoduckmanMember
Thekingisdead + 1Posted 4 years ago
Also, a heck of a lot of the attitudes displayed on the program are down to realising from an early age that there is NOTHING for you. I teach kids who come into secondary with that mindset and it is down to the decline of heavy industry, which was (probably) inevitable, and the abandonment of the poor by a sucession of Governments, which was also inevitable.binnersSubscriber
Indeed. Noting that Amazon (that makes how much profit a year?) receives more in government grants than it pays in corporation tax would be a more suitable target for your anger, as a taxpayer.
Rather than railing against ‘feckless scum’ which seems to be all that present government policy consists of, we might do better as a society if we tried to look for solutions instead. Places and people like that exist as they have effectively been abandoned by the state, to their fate. For decades of de-industialisation. What did they think would happen? That the former steelworkers would all nip back to college and re-train themselves as web developers? Then all set up their own businesses?
One of the things that stood out last night was the woeful level of education in the young people. They were essentially unemployable. Should we try and rectify that? I feel sure that its right at the top of Michael Goves to-do listPosted 4 years agoLawmanmxMember
+1 Phunkmaster, propaganda indeed, anti benefits programming is Everywhere at the moment (because they want shut of it) then what will everyone do in our Failing society when there’s Nothing to fall back on?Posted 4 years ago
Oh and BTW people, your income tax does Not pay for the upkeep of these people, income tax pays only for the debt of war.
Taxes from fuel, cigs, food, alcohol and everything else pays for the benefits system, everyone (even them) pay back into that!
Education TV and bad parenting at fault here.miketuallySubscriber
One of the things that stood out last night was the woeful level of education in the young people. They were essentially unemployable. Should we try and rectify that? I feel sure that its right at the top of Michael Goves to-do list
Sadly, probably not. Unless not reading some Shakespeare or knowing how to use a semi-colon are high on the list of things causing their problems?Posted 4 years agokhaniMember
Big tv and an Xbox? If it’d been a duck house and a new Paddock, or a second home, or a chauffeur driven car on expenses it’d be more acceptable?Posted 4 years ago
The real scum are the people with large salaries and pensions paid for by the taxpayer who work and twist the system while large swathes of community’s are abandoned to a life of pointlessness, unemployment and low education.
And it’s only going to get worse.. And worse.. And worse..bigyinnMember
I watched last night and came away from that feeling sad and appalled in equal measure.Posted 4 years ago
I also thought afterwards, about what the actual point of such a programme was? Was it to hightlight the plight of the forgotten unskilled people? Was it help those who were in that situation or was it just a titilating programme designed for those more fortunate than the people featured to feel good about themselves whilst pointing and laughing.
If thats entertainment then Im Hilary Clinton.
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