CCDB weight saving with a titanium spring
Savings are pretty minuscule considering the cost and there is zero performance gain over steel. Really only any value to an elite racer where 100 grammes is the difference between winning and loosing. I bought my ti spring for my CCDB because I really like the look of titanium, otherwise it’s a complete waste of money!!!
There was a company somewhere in the UK doing smart looking gray springs made of special steel and about the same weight as ti but under £100.Posted 6 years agokevolutionMember
I kind of agree with Duir and Rik. For the average DH racer, the CCDB shock will be so much better than the stock one, the last thing on your mind will be weight saving until you’ve got your settings sorted.Posted 6 years ago
For trail bikes though, if you’ve decided to fit the CCBD, you’ll basically nullify the weight difference from changing to a coil if you run a Ti spring. And have more conrol over the damping adjustment.RadiomanSubscriber
Agree with messiah. If its a top end bike with top gear a ti spring compliments the bike. On its own a ti spring won’t do much to any bike, but it can complete a superb build looks bling and saves a bit more weight without any downside or breakage risk, unlike weight saving with other components.Posted 6 years agofivespotMember
jonke…I got a Ti RCS (Renton Coil Spring) 450 x 2.8 that I am about to sell, which should fit. It has just been taken off a Roco RC WC 215 X 63mm shock. It has an inside dia. of 36.3mm which is the correct size in/dia Cane Creek quote for the Double Barrel. Most springs out there are 35-6mm in/dia, and although some will fit the CCDB, they may bind or rub on the on the plastic wear sleeve (which I know is what its there for) not only effecting shock performance and wearing the inside of the spring, but worst of all it makes a bloody annoying noise. Which I found out when I fitted a Nuke Proof Ti spring to my CCDB.
Anyhow, the spring is pictured below, and along side a Marz 500 x 2.5 spring for length comparison. marz free length 146mm, RCS 151MM.
These retail for about £200, I want £95 (1st class rec.) If your interested. Good luck if your not 8)
Posted 6 years ago
215 x 63 CCDB = 550g + 450# Steel coil at 520g = 1070g
215 x 63 CCDB + 450# Ti coil at 310g = 860g
215 x 63 Fox Float = 280g
Spot the lightest option… but the CCDB does feel much better in the GNAR!
I once had a 375# 5th Element Ti coil for this size of shock which weighed 180g… shame I had to run my frame on the 4″ travel setting to get it to work.Posted 6 years ago
Hi Fivespot – I would be interested – how old is it and why are you selling?
Having gone from a fox rp23 to the CCDB – my original intention was to swap back to air can depending on the type of riding i was doing. the difference was so profound there is no way i’m taking the ccdb off!
However – its now pushed the bike to just over 34lb’s and it is starting to feel a little lardy so I need to shave some weight somewhere.Posted 6 years agofivespotMember
Hi jonke…Its about 2 years old, but has had very little use, which is the reason for selling. It was on my Alpine 160, which FOR 98% of the time I have owned it, has had the RP23 fitted. I neither have the skills or get to the places that would do a good coil shock justice 😳Posted 6 years ago
In case anyone is interested the weight difference for me based on the spring i bought off of fivespot (thanks mate picked up this morning) based on my kitchen scales is:
215 x 63 CCDB = 470g + 450# Steel coil at 530g = 1005gPosted 6 years ago
215 x 63 CCDB + 450# Ti coil at 370g = 840gwarpcowMember
When I got a DHX5 for my Heckler I also bought a 400lb Manitou spring. It came with a 450lb Fox spring, which I never used until last week. I weighed both while swapping and the Manitou was 451g, but the Fox was only 356g. That’s on a 200×57 shock, but still feels like a pretty extreme difference.Posted 6 years agoGWMember
anyone here believe there’s a performance difference, or is it just weight?
only percievable performance difference other than less weight is Ti springs tend to be more accurately calibrated.
they are just two metals wound to compress a specified distance per specified load, even if the properties meant one extended quicker than the other with modern shock damping it would make no difference. A spring with 8 coil winds may well perform (compress/extend) slightly differently to the same rate spring with only 5 winds (ie. Ti) but which is better for this application? and why? until someone answers this I’ll stick with my first statement.
isn’t about time we had carbon shock springs anyway?
warpcow – fox/manitou springs are different free lengths/windings tooPosted 6 years ago
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