My oh my! Always wanted a 4X, but didn’t think there would ever be a carbon one!

Details up on the Pinkbike site… Looks real nice! Do I prefer this to my LTc? Hmm… Hope not! 🙄

Details up on the Pinkbike site.

Or details on the home page. 😀
New Santa Cruz Bikes Released
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Will take your LTc off your hands for a small sum. 😉

Yip got a LTC as well but that looks the dogs, can anyone give tips on how to get it by the wife without her noticing

Without wishing to be picky, it’s not really a carbon 4X replacement at all.

It’s taller, higher BB, longer wheelbase, steeper head angle & longer chainstays.

It looks like your average trailbike in numbers, albeit a very pretty one thats nice & light.

No replacement for the 4X though, who are they trying to convince?!?!

Will the real Blur4x please stand up

Please stand up

thats does look nice like, even prefer the colours to my LTc, but i like the luxury of that extra bit of travel, 140mm is the sweet spot for me 🙂

I need one of those. Weird spec though – they give head angle measurement with a 501mm axle to crown fork which IIRC is something like a Rev wound down to 130mm. Why? The LT/LTc head angle is quoted with a 529mm A2C which is exactly a Rev or Fox 32 at 150mm. This is meant to be longer travel than an LT

Even Santa Cruz must lose count of the number of different models they produce now!

I’m sure that bike’s very nice to ride but the red/black colourscheme is horrid IMO.

Agree with hob nob. All the 4x needed was the vpp2 and a longer top tube, not a geo rework.

CaptainMainwaring – Member
I need one of those. Weird spec though – they give head angle measurement with a 501mm axle to crown fork which IIRC is something like a Rev wound down to 130mm. Why? The LT/LTc head angle is quoted with a 529mm A2C which is exactly a Rev or Fox 32 at 150mm. This is meant to be longer travel than an LT

it’s a 5 inch travel frame?

and not a 4x frame, just a trail bike.

lets hope they do a aluminum one

seat looks s wee bit high for 4X

The angles of dangles are all too steep

The 4X wasn’t a commercial success for SC, which is why it was dropped from the model line up. It was too big to be a proper 4x race machine, and they aren’t really all that slack in comparison to many of the current crop of ‘trail’ bikes, they are also heavy for a 4.5″ travel frame.

This bike looks right to me, 68HA @ 120mm travel, so basically a slacker version of the Blur carbon, or possibly a short travel version of the LTc. Looks like it has guides for remote dropper post, only thing missing is ISCG tabs for running a chainguide.

Running a 140mm fork should give c67 HA and a 150 closer to 66.5.

The angles of dangles are all too steep

pretty much in line with other bikes in that category (niche)

yeti 5
transition bandit

Not sure who has said it’s a new 4X. Not mentioned in the SC release info.

This bike looks right to me, 68HA @ 120mm travel, so basically a slacker version of the Blur carbon, or possibly a short travel version of the LTc

But why would you even quote head angles for a 120mm fork on a bike with 5″ of rear travel? Surely the default will be a 150mm or 160mm

i would guess? that it will be limited to a 140 fork, same as the yeti 5

iirc rev at 150 are 530 a-c, so 510 lowered to 130?

[/quote]But why would you even quote head angles for a 120mm fork on a bike with 5″ of rear travel? Surely the default will be a 150mm or 160mm

Ain’t necessarily so. The new Santa Cruz looks identical in concept to the Yeti ASR5 which works well with 120mm to 140mm forks (130mm is apparently the ‘sweet spot’). Looks like SC are wanting a piece of the ASR5’s market.

just read that it is limited to 140 mm fork.

Nope, I don’t buy that. It has more rear travel than an LT/LTc and both of those will officially take a 160mm fork, although designed for 150mm

The LTr is exactly what I’m looking for, geometry seems spot on.

Only problem for me (there’s always one) is the price, I just can’t bring myself to spend that much money on a frame.

I hope, but doubt, that they will do an alu version….

It only has 120mm rear travel a LT/LTC has 140mm rear travel. It is also not a 4x bike it is a general trail bike that will take a 140mm fork and I need (want) one

Nope, I don’t buy that. It has more rear travel than an LT/LTc and both of those will officially take a 160mm fork, although designed for 150mm

I thought this was 130mm, isn’t the LT 140mm?

CaptainMainwaring – Member

Nope, I don’t buy that. It has more rear travel than an LT/LTc and both of those will officially take a 160mm fork, although designed for 150mm

No it doesn’t, It has 5″ – so 125-127mm possibly 120mm – against 140mm on the LT and 105mm on the blur xc.

Edit: Also 1lb lighter than the LTc

Ooops. Can’t convert to new money 😳 😳