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  • ChunkyMTB
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    Why was he a tool?

    martinxyz
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    because he was testing a proto.

    “if you bump into any of those stw donkeys.. answer to nothing and get the hell out of there”

    Why was he a tool? Skidding and sliding a lot and was quite ignorant of any other rider on the trail. Not really cricket in my opinion but that’s only my opunion.

    hes a tool for braking and sliding πŸ™ jeezus some mtb’ers are pretentious arses – if he was riding a prototype orange five, id probably assume he’ll be a hell of a better rider than you will ever be….im guessing thats the problem though right? πŸ˜‰

    mmmm carbon orange five…

    catsplums
    Member

    not sure about this tool thing going on but a carbon 5 mmmmm indeed!!! I could see one of them being a huge hit with the UK riding public.

    sambob
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    A carbon 5 will probably end up like a hideous child of a Carbon 456 and a normal 5. Doesn’t stop me wanting one though.

    Premier Icon njee20
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    I could see one of them being a huge hit with the UK riding public fanboys on STW.

    FTFY

    Anyone know anything about this.Coming down cut gate today saw a complete tool on what looked like a five with carbon frame and swingarm ,strange shock on it and white disk rotors.The bloke didn’t hang about anyone know if they are bringing a carbon one out.

    catsplums
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    lol I have not tried one but they do seem to have a huge following, here and most other UK based places and press. if they could make a good looking carbon unit then I think it would sell very well.

    druidh
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    It’s Orange. They probably bought some cheap “carbon” tape off eBay and stuck it all over the frame.

    Premier Icon njee20
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    if they could make a good looking carbon unit then I think it would sell very well

    They’ve been trying for 20 years to make a good looking aluminium bike and still failing, can’t see a carbon one being any better πŸ˜‰

    z1ppy
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    Cause the Top Fuel ain’t fugly at all, is it? πŸ˜‰

    catsplums
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    oh you guys are harsh…

    bol
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    Recycled milk cartons instead of filing cabinets?

    Premier Icon ratherbeintobago
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    Aren’t Orange very proud of their ability to fabricate aluminium? As a result, I’d have though they were unlikely to either buy in the gear to fabricate CF, nor buy it in from Taiwan*

    Andy

    *yes, I know the hardtails are made there.

    Rorschach
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    unlikely to either buy in the gear to fabricate CF, nor buy it in from Taiwan

    😳

    Premier Icon Pawsy_Bear
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    If Orange are that proud of their build quality why have they got one of the shortest warranty? Most doing 5 years now. I to my shame have sometimes skidded and unintentionally slid as well <tool shame>

    Premier Icon jam bo
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    Warranty length has **** all to do with quality. It’s a marketing tool.

    don simon
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    Skidding and sliding a lot and was quite ignorant of any other rider on the trail

    Probably trying to replicate the skillz of a typical trailgimp.

    Premier Icon Pawsy_Bear
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    Well if you make a good quality product what risk is there in a good 5 year warranty? Would seem to a no brainer and helps sell Orange bikes as a marketing tool as you suggest. It was maybe the market that forced them in 2008 to raise it?

    Love the Orange debates they go on and on and on :->

    Premier Icon jam bo
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    They seem to be selling plenty without it….

    trail_rat
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    was it cynic-al with some carbon covered spoons out trail riding πŸ˜€

    *ducks als punch πŸ˜€

    thepodge
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    the 5 is way over priced, a carbon one would be stupid money

    catsplums
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    shockingly it would seem that it would probably be cheaper to get a carbon frame made than it would to hand make the sheet metal alley ones they make at the moment, would make for a great bike (in many peoples opinion) but would be a shame to kill off a brilliantly skilled work force in the UK in favour of a factory somewhere abroad…

    Houns
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    druidh – Member

    It’s Orange. They probably bought some cheap “carbon” tape off eBay and got Al to stick it all over the frame

    Premier Icon jam bo
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    the 5 is way over priced, a carbon one would be stupid money

    Given they sell all they make and you rarely see them heavily discounted like trek, specialized and lapierre. I’d say it’s priced just about right.

    Whether you can afford the price or not is another matter.

    I couldn’t so I bought one S/H for a much more reasonable amount. Buying new mtb’s is a mugs game.

    Premier Icon singlespeedstu
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    trail_rat – Member

    was it cynic-al with some carbon covered spoons out trail riding

    Nah. If it was al he’d have posted a thread about it already.

    Then he’d have got all pissy and started claiming we woz all haterz.

    *blows a big kiss to al*

    thepodge
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    folding sheet metal is really cheap, if they can get carbon cheaper then they are doing it wrong

    I very much doubt it was a prototype. the cost of carbon tooling often prohibits real world test samples, if you were copying an existing frame then all you need do is ring up that Belgian guy and get him to do it all on his computer.

    it always makes me chuckle when people bang on about prototypes in cycling as if no one’s ever made a bike before. very few far more complicated things never get tested first as they are known quantities. you just put the correct numbers together and out pops your fully working product.

    Premier Icon jam bo
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    you just put the correct numbers together and out pops your fully working product.

    I’m looking for a new engineer. You sound perfect…

    ilovemygears
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    only a complete tool would ride a orange, its not 1998 any more get over it…

    catsplums
    Member

    folding sheets is cheap, the hand welding and fabrication around the rest of it I am sure is not. everything is cheap if you break it down to welding this to that, or bend sheet or gluing this… get the skills to do it correctly I am sure is not all that cheap at all.

    thepodge
    Member

    double post… or should that be prototype post?

    thepodge
    Member

    cheap compared to tubes. its relative

    I’ve never prototyped anything and have a very wide range of design &engineering experience from football stadium fire escapes to industrial furnaces. I can’t imagine my boss would be too pleased if I suddenly took twice as long and cost twice as much because I had to make everything twice just to make sure I got it right.

    Premier Icon jam bo
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    Building one offs are very different to mass production.

    Have you ever built something and thought afterwards you could have done that bit in a more elegant way.

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    Bike prototyping’s probably largely about the feel of the thing, you can tweak angles and thicknesses and such and suddenly come up with an unexpected result, it’s not as simple as chucking a load of computer time at it.

    But, if they were to do a carbon Five, it probably wouldn’t look that much like a Five since the characteristic shape is mostly down to it being stamped out of sheet.

    jam bo – Member

    Warranty length has **** all to do with quality. It’s a marketing tool.

    Aye, tell that to the boy who was posting on here about his broken Five last week- 3 years old, falling apart, and a year out of warranty…

    ilovemygears
    Member

    why do people buy these things, they brake, look old fashioned and handle like a brick..i bet most people who buy them are called Freid are about 45 and work in some mind numbingly middle class job and think 20 miles is a really long ride πŸ™‚ do they still make that rumbling noise,

    1999 vintage K2 / Proflex OZ ?
    Unless you have seen one and know what they look like its possibly one of those. Mine gets mistaken for an Orange alot , by people who dont know what they are.
    If it was travelling at a rate of knots then a quick glance at the (easton ) swingarm would make you say ” Its a carbon 5″

    ilovemygears
    Member

    1999 vintage K2 / Proflex OZ ?
    Unless you have seen one and know what they look like its possibly one of those. Mine gets mistaken for an Orange alot , by people who dont know what they are.
    If it was travelling at a rate of knots then a quick glance at the (easton ) swingarm would make you say ” Its a carbon 5″

    do you still have the battery powered rear shock???

    catsplums
    Member

    there is a lot of slating of peoples rides in this forum, I am a bit surprised to be honest… I don’t own a five nor have I tried one but obviously some love some hate, but I think EVERY bike will have that my colection included. Value wise, they sell and are still in business so some thing their value and price point is correct, design people buy them and they get good ratings horses for courses, and it is a british company making a bike that a lot of people like… I would be pretty sad for all the people here knocking them to then sit back in a different thread and complain about the death of our engineering design and fabrication skills because of the number of other bikes made from the same factory abroad looks and rides the same with a different brand badge on the front. rant over…. please continue.

    do you still have the battery powered rear shock???

    Mine was a frame up build so never came with the Noleen Smart shock.
    It had a Manitou spv coil , been replaced with a SPV Air can now in 220 x 52 iirc.

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