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  • project
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    If you fall on ice or snow they havent cleared,or done badly,surely under Health and Safety regulations you have the right to a safe workplace,eg drivers and postmen etc, who use the roads and streets for work activities.

    iDave
    Member

    you can if you're a bit tragic

    grumm
    Member
    sc-xc
    Member

    lost for words.

    project
    Member

    Teachers are quoteing H and S so why cant the public who pay their wages.

    nicedays
    Member

    The advice was not go out? Unless you have to, and to take care in the adverse weather conditions.

    project
    Member

    But posties,paramedics,district nurses and me have to go out as do delivery drivers,doctors,and lots more.

    Junkyard
    Member

    LEA 's are quoting H & S because people sue them when their kids fall over on snow and on wet floors …..go figure 🙄

    You would need to prove negligence and they would probably argue you could have assessed the risk better and worn appropriate PPE such as crampons or just crawled over the danger.

    iDave
    Member

    Teaschers are quoteing H and S so why cant the public who pay their wages.

    they can if they can spell 'teachers', 'quoting' and 'can't'

    this is a very poor quality troll – who do I sue?

    ski
    Member

    Chatting to a friend who works in A&E & the number of fracture due to the snow and ice she has had to deal with over the last week.

    If you could, I think it would bancrupt our council!

    TinMan
    Member

    The fault, if there is any, would be with your employer if they made you go out in hazardous conditions? Did you have the correct training and equipment provided?

    IGMC

    thomthumb
    Member

    what do you do?

    plumber
    Member

    snow – act of god – no claim

    If cleared then potential claim senario depending on circumstances

    sc-xc
    Member

    traffic warden

    Premier Icon metalheart
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    On as long as you lodged your risk assessment and method statement prior to setting out. Otherwise the HSE can sue you for failing to perform your legal duty to ensure that you don't endanger yourself or others. H&S is everybodies responsibility…
    :mrgreen:

    Premier Icon tthew
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    +1 tinman.

    Your employer has to provide a safe system of work, a statutory requirement. Every work task has to have a suitable and sufficient risk assessment, and associated method statement drawn up by a person compenent to provide these. This would take into account the working environment, (i.e. ice on pavements) and detail measures to control the risk from avoidance of the work, (best) to minimum standards of PPE (minimum).

    So when people claim that they are skiving not going to work due to health and safety fears, it is bount to be because their employer has evaluated the risks and deemed that stopping at home is the best cause of action. So you can now go sleding instead.

    iDave
    Member

    Your employer has to provide a safe system of work, a statutory requirement. Every work task has to have a suitable and sufficient risk assessment, and associated method statement drawn up by a person compenent to provide these. This would take into account the working environment, (i.e. ice on pavements) and detail measures to control the risk from avoidance of the work, (best) to minimum standards of PPE (minimum).

    fab

    grumm
    Member

    Is your real name allah or mahamed of similar?

    Nice bit of racism there.

    Premier Icon Suggsey
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    Someones going to be in trouble ❗

    thomthumb
    Member

    Is your real name allah or mahamed of similar?

    eh?

    Gary_C
    Member

    No wonder the council tax increases every year.. 🙄

    project
    Member

    Surely the council have a duty of care,to the public.

    starseven
    Member

    Bigotry actually. They not a race just an ideology like the Nazi's.

    "If cleared then potential claim senario depending on circumstances "

    Total b00l0x. See the other thread.

    If atheists (I'm aware many of you are) avoid liability by claiming an act of God, aren't they being hypocrites? 😀

    thomthumb
    Member

    They not a race just an ideology like the Nazi's.

    takes one to know one!

    iDave
    Member

    surely the public who fall over, whoever they are, have a duty of care to themselves and should stop being a load of helpless fucktards. maybe the council should send workers out to walk in front waving flags and pointing out hazards?

    grumm
    Member

    Bigotry actually. They not a race just an ideology like the Nazi's.

    Oh well that's ok then. Who are 'they' btw?

    starseven
    Member

    Whats that supposed to mean you half wit?

    Junkyard
    Member

    starseven a stupid and offensive slur suggesting only Muslims make claims and dont work shame on you

    sc-xc
    Member

    starseven is a stupid and offensive slur suggesting only Muslims make claims and dont work shame on you twatt

    HTH

    Premier Icon Suggsey
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    I cant beieve that starseven is even trying to justify his ignorance, even if you dont like a particular race/religion/sex/etc etc there may be better times and places to make your point, not in the middle of a unrelated thread.

    Junkyard
    Member

    as a bigot is defined as

    A person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.
    The correct use of the term requires the elements of obstinacy, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing devotion.

    A pointless appeal to rationality

    sc-xc
    Member

    I work for a very large Met. And you are talking shit.

    Premier Icon PaulMc
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    Apart from TinMan and tthew everything else said above is complete tosh. Yes you can try to claim from the local council, but not under H&S law as highways are expressly excluded from the definition of a 'workplace'.

    The Government changed the law in 2003 to place a legal duty on highway authorities to try to keep highways clear of snow and ice and they have to take reasonable steps to do so.

    As a defendant lawyer I would argue on behalf of the authority that in these exceptional conditions they are doing all they reasonably can in prioritising the main roads. Your lawyer would argue that by now they should have worked their way down the list to the more minor roads and pavements. The fact that the Government has now instructed highway authorities to cut gritting by 25% adds an interesting complication.

    The warning to people not to travel carries no legal weight but again I would argue that you should have stayed indoors/worn better footwear/taken more care.

    Any claims in current circumstances are likely to be difficult but no doubt there will be some as there have already been some very serious injuries.

    In an employment situation your employer has a duty to risk assess and to take appropriate steps to reduce the risk, including to provide suitable PPE.

    markd
    Member

    Starseven – Utter nonsense. It scares me that people like you come out with this crap.

    ski
    Member

    pulls up a chair………..

    Beer anyone?

    Junkyard
    Member

    you utter imbecile are you suggesting all the money goes on Muslims- get some evidence you utter fool
    Second only to Pakistan we have more here than Iran ,Iraq,Indonesia, Afghanistan -quick tell the US of A they will invade us soon to stop the spread of terrorism. More than actual Muslim countires are you sure about that , Egypt,Jordan, Nigeria, Turkey
    I apologoise with my description of a bigot above I totally misunderestimated your stupidity.

    thomthumb
    Member

    Muslims have no interest in our community and as such no hesitation in making claims from our councils, they have a single minded following of a medieval superstition which supersedes any political or communal boundaries.

    do you truly believe all muslims are this radical?

    the majority of muslims believe in allah a bit and maybe go to mosque at the weekend, some are more dedicated and pray to mecca a few times a day, a tiny minority are full of hatred for those different to themselves.

    just like some other religions. and some athiests – as demonstrated by yourself.

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