Bye bye Saab?
Have a vested interest here (involved with them). Have read our obituary many times now. Still here.
Have not yet read a single opinion piece by an “expert” that wasn’t a woeful cut and paste from old news and ill informed speculation.
We’re in a tight spot. But as Churchil said – “when you’re in hell, keep going”.
Which is what we’re doing. Aiming to be back to normal in couple of weeks, accepting there are no guarantees in life…
And know what’s coming, assuming we make it. It’s genius…Posted 6 years agoloddrikMember
Be a damn shame if they do go, before the GM takeover and neglect (and lets be honest, most of what GM makes is shite) SAAB’s were crackingly distinctive and individual, in a world where the competition were mostly dull or conservative. They should be an offbeat and crdible alternative to the Germans, I really hope someone sees this and restores them to where they should be.Posted 6 years agopalmer77Member
My understanding was that SAAB hold some very good patents and that this would be a key incentive to any investors. That said if they have been running at a loss for so long perhaps these chance of anyone stepping in may become less likely.
Anyway as a proud owner of a ten year old 9-5 Aero I can safely say it’s been a pleasure to drive on a daily basis amid the fleets of BMW’s and Audi’sPosted 6 years agotwohatsMember
The reason SAAB was sold years ago to GM was that it was making a loss.
My understanding was that SAAB hold some very good patents and that this would be a key incentive to any investors.
My understanding is that GM kept hold of those patents/interests and only sold on the right to manufacture.Posted 6 years agodekadanseMember
My feeling is that the BBC site clip is slightly old news – the stuff about not paying suppliers has gone on for several months, and I heard a couple of days that some additional Chinese cash has already been put into Saab. Fingers crossed!
Totally concur with the negative remarks about GM. Basically, they asset-stripped Saab of its good ideas and innovations (safety features, pollen filters, build quality, etc) while merely donating their rubbish parts bin. Result – Saabs start having major mechanical problems and breaking down well before 100K miles (something unknown in old 900s and 9000s) and parts last little more than 2 or 3 years and can’t stand up to hard wear. Also, abolition of hatchbacks and introduction of ‘sports saloons’….all of which contribute to an identity crisis for Saabs – not the quirky bulletproof cars they once were, now merely average, and as the commentators say, sadly unable to compete with BMW, Audi or even Volvo (who did massively better under Ford than Saab did under GM.)
So – fingers crossed indeed, and anyone who owns one, it’s worth joining the Saab Owners Club and looking at the Saabscene site.Posted 6 years agowillardMember
I know it’s a little odd, but I prefer the look of the 9-3 estates to pretty much every other estate car in that class. 9-5 estate looks wrong, but the 9-3 looks aggressive and refined at the same time.
Shame there do not seem to be that many in my price bracket on the market. I wouldn’t mind one.Posted 6 years agoNobbySubscriber
I’ve got a (newish) 9-3 Aero estate & it’s much like driving a Saab again – as opposed to a Vauxhall. It may be a diesel, but it’s 180 bhp, 300 torques & 50 mpg.
I would hate to see them go after everything that’s happened in the last couple of years, especially if the new models will be anything like the latest 9-5 which is a great car to drive.Posted 6 years ago
And what are these ‘patents’ then?
Interesting list of Saab innovations here:
You will notice a significant contribution to safety amongst and quite a few firsts for the industry. I hate to see any car manufacturer go under. Not only do a lot of people lose their jobs (not just at the factory but the dealer and service network), but the roads just look quite boring compared to years ago.Posted 6 years agoPJM1974Member
My old chap ran Saabs for many years, two of which were somewhat modified and felt like an Exocet missile to drive. Not that I’ve ever driven an Exocet missile, but if I did I imagine it would feel a lot like driving well built Scandinavian car with 200+ bhp going through the front wheels once the turbo has spooled up.
All GM did when they bought Saab was to starve them of investment and undermine any premium pretensions of the brand by forcing them to use obsolete and floppy GM platforms. To lose Saab this way would be an utter tragedy.
Just remember that GM came very, very close to buying Jaguar in 1990 before Ford stepped in.Posted 6 years agoexilegeordieMember
PePPeR – a 99EMS? Nice. My uncle had one – very distinctive colour scheme.
My dad owned 2 99s, the went on to a low pressure 900. Even though it lacked the full beans, the exhaust note was fab and it was quick enough for him. I inherited the second 99…lovely car to drive.
Still check out the adverts on Pistonheads and the like for a likely 900 or 9-3 to replace the Scooby.
Good luck to you Fopster!Posted 6 years ago
From a purely selfish point of view, I always thought I’d end up with a Saab at some point. It hasn’t happened yet, so I’d like to see them continue.
From a non-selfish pov, I reckon they must be doing something wrong to have been in trouble for so long. I don’t think they ever really tapped into the marketing opportunities available. I don’t really feel they did enough to leverage on their good image created by the fact that people actively chose them as alternatives to BMW/VAG because of the negative image associated with them.Posted 6 years ago
In fact – apart from the old aircraft ads from the 80s/90s I can’t really remember a single piece of SAAB marketing.CougarSubscriber
What Alex said.
I’ve never owned a SAAB but I’ve always quite liked them. Always seemed to be the also-ran in this country though, certainly in recent years. They should be going toe-to-toe with BMW and Audi (and winning), never really understood why that hasn’t happened.Posted 6 years ago
I just don’t think that Saab have ever understood their target market as well as BMW and AUDI have understood theirs.
They need a good branding expert to get to the heart of why people buy Saabs. Then all development should be focussed on delivering more of that. Then the marketing does itself.Posted 6 years agorootes1Member
excluding the 2 stroke older saabs, the 99 and 900 (the black 900 turbo above is very nice) to me were the epitome of a SAAB..
but think they suffered a little from 911 syndrome in that they seemed to think that all the newer cars had to follow the same design style.. Porsche have made a success of selling cars that all look the same, but don’t think SAAB had.
also the 9000 was a mistake to get into bed with Fiat – sharing a platform with the Chroma.. doh!Posted 6 years ago
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