Burning waste illegally – Who to Contact – advice pls
Really don’t want to call 999. Photo’s taken will contact council and business involved on Tuesday. Think a generic letter to all local businesses is needed; once one starts it seems to give the others ideas. Cheers guys needed to let off some steam before I committed myself to time behind bars.Posted 4 years agostevepitchMember
As above if a business is burning waste illegally then the Local authority should be informed, if they do jack (and depending on where you are) the county council may be interested. If your in Buckinghamshire we would prosecute the business owner if sufficient evidence was present and the waste being burnt was deemed to be hazardous (i.e. lots of black smoke from plastics etc)
Failing all that (and depending on the scale) the environment agency would also be worth a punt if its a regular occurance.Posted 4 years ago
How can the local police make the decision if the fire brigade are needed? The op is looking at the scene. He should make a decision and not pass the buck to someone in a call centre who can’t see it.
By listening to the op when he calls them, seeing as hes already tried to contact the fire brigade without much luck. My guess is that they have means to contact the fire brigade. I’d also suggest that the police are the usual organisation to contact if you witness activity you believe may be illegal.Posted 4 years ago
It seems to be the time of year to have a clear out. Its bank holiday weekend and a local business have decided to burn everything and anything they don’t want turning the sky in to a mass of black smoke which smells acrid. Local council offices are shut and the local fire station answer phone message is stating no one available until Tuesday. I live in a mixed industrial residential area. I recognise one of the men and know him to be unapproachable. Suggestions on what to do how to handle please…Posted 4 years ago
I am an environment officer in the EA. You need to call our hotline number as above ASAP. There will be someone on standby to come and take action if required.
Don’t wait to call as we have to get there as they are actually burning something, not 2 hours later.
Also call fire brigade if it looks large or out of control. Police aren’t really the people to call unless its arson!Posted 4 years ago
Most of you are wrong – the EA deal with waste issues and 99% of the time burning trade waste is illegal. It’s environmental law which the police often aren’t 100% aware of so EA is best to start off with. We work with the police often but generally we don’t need them there as EA officers are fully warranted.Posted 4 years ago
Fire out, burnt mattress springs dragged off to the side of the original bonfire and burnt out metal drum (may be oil) too. No idea if police have been but seems to have been dealt with. No way I’m going to approach this joker if he has so little regard for the law; i have family to consider. I have phoned the business involved several times to no avail. As always Thanks for advice…Posted 4 years ago
Matress springs no idea – oil barrel – ive burnt plenty of stuff in oil barrels over the years. Empty and clean they are the perfect vessel for containing fire , but i wont let that stop him from believing they were burning waste engine oil that will kill him and a babys hedgehogs face.Posted 4 years ago
Because, as above, the investigation and prosecution of waste offences is led by the EA and nothing to do with the police. (Who are quite overstretched trying to deal with their own responsibilities). Putting out fires is the job of the fire brigade. Mrs May has been very clear that she wants the police to concentrate on their job and stop being dragged into non-police matters.Posted 4 years agoprojectMember
Mattress springs are quite good quality steel,so burning the mattress exposed the steel and is easily sold, local hospital i worked at, paid a chap to take old sprung matresses away, he dumped them at the weekend behind the hospital on waste land set them on fire and burnt them out, but the smoke also set off the fire alarms at the hospital,resulting in partial evacuation, due to number of alarms activated, loads of firemen, and the bloke got arrested.
Also uncontrolled burning is illegal, EA and fire service, but then if the fire service come out there are less engines to deal with real emergencies like your house burning down.Posted 4 years ago
Putting out fires is the job of the fire brigade.
And dealing with criminals is the job of the police, who if spoken to on their non-emergency number would be able to advise on the correct course of action. The point being that by calling their non-emergency number, it will be treated as such. Calling 999 diverts a fire engine from what might be a real emergency, as by calling 999, you’ve tacitly stated that it is one. One would assume, that if the police are rather overstretched, they’d be up to speed with who they can palm things off to – the EA it seems in this case. As the OP was asking, it’s pretty clear that they, nor most other people, would know to contact them out of hours.
This being STW, I’m sure you will, but I’m not sure anyone could argue that the police are the people you usually call if you witness what you suspect to be illegal activity.Posted 4 years ago
Putting out fires is the job of the fire
We provide a service to yous thee tax payer.. If I had a £ for everytime some jumped up ahole screamed at me “I pay my taxes so I pay your wages” I’d have £12 😉 my reply is yes thanks for that and tug at my imaginary hair lock.Posted 4 years ago
Zokes, I struggle to understand your point. Why would you call the police for advice on a fire? You may as well run it by the out of hours GP. The fire service call taker will be far better qualified to decide on the fire service response and give advice than a police call taker. In most police forces 999 and 101 go to the same operators. They make a judgement on the required response based on what they are told not what number is used. I am sure the fire service are equally capable of judging an appropriate response. Calling the police seems to be a certain section of society’s default response to all of life’s problems.Posted 4 years ago
Zokes, I struggle to understand your point. Why would you call the police for advice on a fire?
That may well be because you’re clearly not reading what I have written. The OP stated that they suspected the fire was illegal. Who do you call when you see an illegal act? That and the fact that unlike the fire brigade, you can get hold of the police on a non-emergency basis – the OP tried and failed that with the Fire Service.Posted 4 years ago
Manicman – probaby asked if it was going near highways as thats all they care about.
I had the firebrigade arrive at my grandads once- nearest neighbour quarter mile away and i was burning leaves in an oil barrel with the smoke going over the fields which is why i was burning.
“What are you burning ” ” leaves” ” oh right , have a nice day see”Posted 4 years ago
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