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  • Brexit 2020+
  • dannyh
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    the new deal with Micronesia

    Including using a tramp steamers to transport the goods – fuelled by Aussie coal.

    Global Britain
    Taking Back Control
    Etc.

    kelvin
    Full Member

    I voted against this? Did you vote for it?

    Boris Johnson broke Britain, and should not just lose his job title, but be run out of the country. Hopefully just before the Telegraph closes its doors so he can’t return to a high paid column to spread further lies and sow more seeds of decline.

    Edukator
    Free Member

    but be run out of the country

    If you don’t mind I think the rest of the world would rather you kept him. However I find it astonishing he hasn’t broken any laws he can be tried for, even Blair hasn’t had to face a court for his dirty deeds.

    dannyh
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    Boris Johnson broke Britain, and should not just lose his job title, but be run out of the country. Hopefully just before the Telegraph closes its doors so he can’t return to a high paid column to spread further lies and sow more seeds of decline.

    It really is a shabby tale of a shabby, lazy, lying cheat and his inexorable rise – draining the positivity out of a nation to allow one fraud to live out his fantasy.

    **** him.

    kelvin
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    https://news.sky.com/story/hgv-driving-tests-to-be-relaxed-to-help-lorry-driver-shortages-ahead-of-christmas-12404161

    Reversing? So pre-Brexit. Working up the vehicle types? That‘s only about road safety… who cares… we’ll deregulate and lower standards to get through the Brexit mess… no one would have predicted we’d do that.

    dannyh
    Free Member

    ^^^

    Shit-filled rivers and motorway pile-ups are a price worth paying to be free of the evil EU. Obviously all the cash saved by corner-cutting will be invested back into projects that help the general public. Most certainly not trousered by some fat bastard who already has enough money for ten lifetimes.

    😅

    vinnyeh
    Full Member

    never understood why his police escort wouldn’t just provide confirmation of where he was on crucial dates, for example pizza express visits- surely this’d put the whole thing to bed quite painlessly.

    dannyh
    Free Member

    ^^^

    I’m guessing wrong thread, but the similarities between Randy Andy and Brexshit are a damning indictment of what should a be a grateful, Liberal and forward-looking country.

    MoreCashThanDash
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    I’m guessing wrong thread, but the similarities between Randy Andy and Brexshit are a damning indictment of what should a be a grateful, Liberal and forward-looking country.

    Handy Randy Andy distracting the hard of thinking from the car crash that is Brexit.

    Poopscoop
    Full Member

    ^^Oi you, I’m not distracted.😉

    Andy, Brexit, Boris. It’s the British English disease that’s eating away at the country/union.

    MoreCashThanDash
    Full Member

    Sadly, yes

    Poopscoop
    Full Member

    ^^ I don’t mean too come across as snarky MCTD, I agree with about 98% of your posts on here and there is another 1% where you have actually changed my opinion on something.

    Me tearing up my census letter in a futile attempt to stick it to the man when in actual fact they serve a very important and positive purpose.

    Yep, I was wrong. An STW first?lol

    MoreCashThanDash
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    I don’t mean too come across as snarky MCTD, I agree with about 98% of your posts on here

    Wow, imagine two of us being so wrong on so many issues 🙃🤣

    Poopscoop
    Full Member

    ^^It’s the STW way.👍😁

    MoreCashThanDash
    Full Member

    👍

    dudeofdoom
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    Ah the local.es (paywall) is reporting that brits rejected for residency are being given notice to leave the country within 15 days.

    Interestingly I’ve been rejected for residency, on the grounds I couldn’t prove I was here prior to Brexit and it looks like I’m not the only one.

    (All down to not paying some money into a Spanish bank account regularly.)

    It’s not a problem as wifey been approved(Mrs DoD slacker with no income) and the paperwork proving we are actually still married is being delivered today.

    Like I’ve said the stench of Brexit just follows like a bad fart,”if you don’t like it here just fk off” ,they said……

    Well apparently Not.

    Klunk
    Free Member

    seems more are looking for sunny uplands elsewhere will Johnsons brexit tax be enough ?

    mrmo
    Free Member

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/13/uk-delay-brexit-border-checks-food-eu

    Interesting, feel free to impose the checks, because staff is the issue not checks. But then read the small print, try and keep foreign food out and help British suppliers, who can’t cope….. I am sure that will be fine!

    kelvin
    Full Member

    try and keep foreign food out and help British suppliers

    At the moment, we’re screwing UK GB businesses left right and centre… you can see why trade bodies would be desperate for the government to actually make a decision based on putting “our own” producers first. It wouldn’t work of course, but the sentiment is understandable.

    dannyh
    Free Member

    It wouldn’t work of course, but the sentiment is understandable.

    And therefore it is another bit of PR flim-flam to distract from the fact that kicking your closest trading partners in the balls for no good reason is monumentally stupid.

    🤷‍♂️

    kelvin
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    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/14/britain-delay-some-post-brexit-border-controls-brexit-covid

    Brexit controls on food and animal products that were due to come into effect in January are being postponed until July 2022 because of the potential impact on businesses, the British government has announced.

    So, not taking back control of our borders, for a fair bit longer. It’s the right (only) move, but it does suggest that implementing this isn’t entirely and overwhelming in our own interests doesn’t it. Meanwhile, our cheese producers (insert Liz Truss meme) find that selling direct to customers anywhere outside the UK is already a distant memory, like some kind of cheese dream… “and we could sell to anywhere on the continent, direct, without supermarkets taking a cut… yes, must have been a dream”.

    dannyh
    Free Member

    Meanwhile, our cheese producers (insert Liz Truss meme) find that selling direct to customers anywhere outside the UK is already a distant memory

    Selling ‘our’ cheese abroad is an act of treason if you subscribe to the idiocy encouraged and personified by Truss. See also buying imported cheese – foreign muck.

    The problem is when this fantasy world meets the real world.

    Scottish shellfish producers going out of business? Not an issue as ‘we’ don’t eat that much shellfish as a nation – so what’s the problem?

    It is people, who should know better, encouraging the notion that such idiocy is ‘ok’ for their own personal gain that should be a treasonable offence.

    tjagain
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    Brexit controls on food and animal products that were due to come into effect in January are being postponed until July 2022 because of the potential impact on businesses, the British government has announced.

    surely that puts them in breach of the agreement with the EU? More trouble coming!

    cchris2lou
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    It is Brexit for your exports to the EU and single market for imports from the EU.
    Brillant move.

    dannyh
    Free Member

    It is Brexit for your exports to the EU and single market for imports from the EU.
    Brillant move.

    Liz Truss would actually miss the sarcasm and take that at face value.

    Her stupidity is so profound it bends space and time.

    binners
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    It is Brexit for your exports to the EU and single market for imports from the EU.

    Brillant move

    There simply are no words for this level of stupidity.

    This is essentially subsidising EU imports into the UK? Placing tariffs on your own exports?

    Christ on a bendybus! The EU must be absolutely laughing their tits off

    molgrips
    Free Member

    The EU must be laughing their tits off

    No I think they are depressed about it, because they can see how the idiots and the unscrupulous have hijacked a formerly progressive country. The idea that they are depressed about it is one reason I feel pro-EU.

    tjagain
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    I think most folk in the EU punters and politicians alike have just moved on and no longer care. More important stuff to worry about

    Poopscoop
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    I suspect government “strategy” is to try to let Brexit damage hit slowly and incrementally.

    Incremental, slow change together with Covid is going to mask massive change in the UK but it’s slow enough that it’s not obvious to most that the boat is sinking. Those that do realise will be too busy bailing out the boat to do much else anyway.

    kelvin
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    There’s nothing that smart going on here. The IT systems aren’t ready (still). The physical sites aren’t ready (still). The staff aren’t ready (still). The checks can’t be put in place ‘till next year because we aren’t ready for them (still). As predicted by some of us in 2016 when Brexit was being sold as easily and cheaply deliverable. And again in 2017 when politicians where ruling out any substantive close arrangements with the EU to minimise border issues. And again in 2019 when oven ready deals and getting things done were key political messages. And again when the EU offered us extensions on the transition period arrangements because they knew we wouldn’t be ready and they wanted everyone to focus on getting through the pandemic.

    dyna-ti
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    taking back control of our borders

    That is the joke really. The system was to IMPORT cheap wage labourers into the UK, at the UK’s behest, in order to maximize profits for the employers.

    kelvin
    Full Member

    Low wages can be addressed by the UK government. They still need to do that. Employers can’t exploit workers on low pay without the blessing of the UK government. That is still the case after Brexit. It hasn’t changed. Anyone genuinely interested in sorting out low pay needs to look long and hard at the UK government in power thanks to Brexit. Telling foreigners they aren’t wanted was never the answer to low wages. All it has done is make it harder it to export, harder to deliver goods and services inside the UK, and harder for Brits to work outside the UK (unless they have a foreign passport).

    dannyh
    Free Member

    There’s nothing that smart going on here. The IT systems aren’t ready (still). The physical sites aren’t ready (still). The staff aren’t ready (still). The checks can’t be put in place ‘till next year because we aren’t ready for them (still). As predicted by some of us in 2016 when Brexit was being sold as easily and cheaply deliverable. And again in 2017 when politicians where ruling out any substantive close arrangements with the EU to minimise border issues. And again in 2019 when oven ready deals and getting things done were key political messages. And again when the EU offered us extensions on the transition period arrangements because they knew we wouldn’t be ready and they wanted everyone to focus on getting through the pandemic.

    Sensible people have always pointed out that even IF Brexit was a good idea in theory, the practicalities involved in extricating the UK from 40 odd years of alignment are so immense that even trying would be harmful.

    Sensible people wouldn’t normally have to worry about that, though, because sensible people know that Brexit is a stupid idea in theory AND in practice.

    🤷‍♂️

    dannyh
    Free Member

    Anyone genuinely interested in sorting out low pay needs to look long and hard at the UK government in power thanks to Brexit.

    Economic disaster and low wages have already been compensated for – sovrunty. It’s what the Brexity masses wanted, so it is a price worth paying, right?

    😅

    nickc
    Full Member

    “the UK is acting very fairly and continuing with free trade, it’s Europe that is being very aggressive and immediately imposed all these extra checks – not us”

    Conservative MP George Freeman, on the UK’s decision to postpone food check until 2022

    Five years, and were still at the point where these folks get cross that the UK has to now deal with extra paperwork when they step outside the customs union that they used to be in

    dannyh
    Free Member

    Five years, and were still at the point where these folks get cross that the UK has to now deal with extra paperwork when they step outside the customs union that they used to be in

    Or pretend to get cross to keep their lumpen support happy.

    nickc
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    I just find it amazing that the “deal” that apparently was both brilliant and easy to implement, has to be postponed again because…Reasons, while the EU goes ahead and observes the third country rules that we (as a nation) helped draw up, and Tory MPs think that regular folk can’t see through their nonsense?

    kelvin
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    it’s Europe that is being very aggressive and immediately imposed all these extra checks

    If only there had been an extension to the transition period on offer… if the EU were reasonable they’d have offered to delay imposing checks to help us, especially when focus needed to be on getting through the pandemic. What do you mean that’s exactly what happened, and we slapped down the offer? Still their fault though, obviously. We chose to have the extra checks imposed. We chose when that would begin. All our choice. Yet all their fault.

    think that regular folk can’t see through their nonsense?

    Boris Johnson broke Britain. But as long as he can blame the EU, millions don’t care.

    Del
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    Tory MPs think that regular folk can’t see through their nonsense?

    Few are looking. Most don’t care. Politicians of all stripes know this. For those directly affected it will happen slowly, quietly, and for the most part unseen and unremarked.

    No one with any prospect of sorting this out is on the horizon so protect ourselves as best we can for now and hope you’re not too badly affected. F all else you can do is there? Beyond getting a bit irked when hearing from otherwise reasonable people about the EU punishing us or it not being as bad as anyone said it would be I struggle to get too energetic about the whole thing now. It’s just wasted energy.

    kelvin
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    It’s just wasted energy.

    True. Except… it’s set a trend for UK politics now. And “getting away with it” on such a grand scale means that politicians can employ the same tactics in many areas, not just our arrangements with the countries around us. If the accepted truth is just all the theatrics and messaging, not what’s actually happening on the ground, then it’s the former that you focus on, not the later. Great for winning, not so much for running a country. Now would be a good time to watch Adam Curtis’ Hypernormalization again, especially the Surkov stuff.

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