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  • allthepies
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    Wrong pic ?

    </confused>

    Premier Icon Coyote
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    Nice one.

    Premier Icon dawson
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    keep an eye out for that kid in 10~15 yrs time.

    Nice one Sir Dave

    Premier Icon scotroutes
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    Thumbs up 😉

    Class act.

    keep an eye out for that kid in 10~15 yrs time.

    i was just thinking that is one of those pictures that the press dredge up when someone goes on to win something big. Here’s hoping.

    robdob
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    Any other countries want to know how we got so good at cycling? That’s why.

    Unfortunately it takes a lot of time and effort by a lot of people and many years to get where we are now, but a lot of people think that money can buy everything you need for success. Yes it helps but you need the people too.

    Premier Icon binners
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    Indeed! If you’ve not read this, its a truly fascinating read. How Brailsford and crew transformed British cycling from international laughing stock, to the powerhouse it is today.

    benw
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    Sorry Binners but Chris’s Hoys book was the most boring cycling book I have ever read.I eventually put it down before finishing it.

    mattsccm
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    It’s a family thing I reckon. DB’s dad was head of OE at Bangor Normal College when I was there. Scared the crap out of me at times but by god he could motivate you.

    bikebouy
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    Yeah I reckon DB is saying ” shut up you stroppy little shit ” 😆

    Premier Icon Matt24k
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    benw, I ordered the book in the time it took you to post. I hope binners likes the kind of book I like!
    That said someone on here recommended 150 Watts Of Awesome and it was complete toilet. I got about 30% of the way through it before the author wound me up to the point of deleting it from my Kindle.

    Premier Icon surroundedbyhills
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    Confused – all i see is someone pushing a house up hill?

    Premier Icon beej
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    Benw – that’s not Chris Hoy’s book, it’s Richard Moore’s book about the transformation of British cycling.

    benw
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    Whichever book it is ,I have the one in the foto and thought it was garbage and if someone wants it they only have to pay the postage and I will give it to them t.i like all forms of cycling and will happily sit there watching a dull flat boring road race all afternoon or anything else on two wheels but couldn’t find any entertainment in that book.

    samuri
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    To be honest I found Wiggins book more insightful into the way Brailsford operates.

    Premier Icon mrblobby
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    Shame that, I thought his book, “the dirtiest race in history”, was an excellent read and his articles are usually pretty good too.

    MrSmith
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    And yet the British cycling budget has been cut for go-ride (youth)coaches and the number of coaches is dropping due to job cuts while money is being spent on ‘recreation’ not youth development and in-school competition. This is where your medal winners come from.
    But don’t let that get in the way of spin or sentiment.

    Premier Icon scotroutes
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    MrSmith wrote:

    money is being spent on ‘recreation’ not youth development and in-school competition.

    Good

    Premier Icon MSP
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    To be honest, I consider mass participation more important than medals.

    large418
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    But medals help mass participation. They both support each other

    MrSmith
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    But it was the medals that guaranteed the funding in the first place and resulted in the finding and development of young talent and the medal hauls of the last 2 Olympics, its those performances that are a key part of getting ordinary people on bikes.

    Premier Icon crazy-legs
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    To be honest, I consider mass participation more important than medals.

    One drives the other though. Participation through inspiration is the motto.
    Win medals, people get inspired, want to do the same, you get more people riding and, assuming you’ve got the pathways correct, you can pick up the talented individuals from Youth/Junior level.

    MrSmith
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    To be honest, I consider mass participation more important than medals.

    And a lot of that mass participation is non cyclists dragging their bike out the shed to ride a towpath on a bank holiday or a skyride before it goes back in the shed for another year, for a lot of people it’s tokenism. they are not cyclists but casual one-off consumers of some traffic free sunny idyl that they can dip into on a whim.

    Premier Icon scotroutes
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    MrSmith wrote:

    And a lot of that mass participation is non cyclists dragging their bike out the shed to ride a towpath on a bank holiday or a skyride before it goes back in the shed for another year, for a lot of people it’s tokenism. they are not cyclists but casual one-off consumers of some traffic free sunny idyl that they can dip into on a whim.

    Good.

    casual one-off consumers of some traffic free sunny idyl that they can dip into on a whim.

    And maybe, just maybe, some of them will like that whim, will enjoy that ride. Then, some of that number will decide to ride more often.

    It’s all good…! Let’s just keep getting more people to ride!

    MrSmith
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    Good

    I guess Halfords and GT85/WD40 think so too.

    Who pissed on your chips?

    More people riding bikes and enjoying it is a good thing. If it brings money in to the economy, all the better.

    Premier Icon scotroutes
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    Aye. Attitudes like that remind me that I’ll never be a cyclist, just someone that rides bikes.

    Premier Icon rOcKeTdOg
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    c’mon chaps, this was meant to be a positive upbeat thread

    RD, it is!

    People riding bikes is an ACE thing!

    See?

    Premier Icon MSP
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    Nah, I consider myself a cyclist, but I am not a selfish cyclist, plenty of fun for everyone to join in.

    Junkyard
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    a lot of that mass participation is non cyclists dragging their bike out the shed to ride a towpath on a bank holiday or a skyride before it goes back in the shed for another year

    so the “non cyclist” is cycling then on the bike they own

    c’mon chaps, this was meant to be a positive upbeat thread

    yes can they not save it for wheel size threads like what you do or perhaps Millar bashing on a MTB downhill thread 😉

    MrSmith
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    [/quote]Who pissed on your chips?

    Nobody. Just offering a polar view on the Brailsford back-slapping because there’s a side of British cycling that to a lot of people is not apparent. I think it’s only fair that its pointed out that funding is being cut for grass roots cycling/youth when there is a high demand for it in and out of school time (the popularity is heavily influenced by those medal winners)
    Can’t say too much beyond what would be common knowledge to people involved in schools/cycle clubs youth development but it’s not all rosy in the world of cycling funding from sport England despite the current success.

    mt
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    scotroutes you ride a bike then your are a cyclist whatever you think. fact. don’t argue you know its true whatever your view.

    Premier Icon scotroutes
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    Noooooooooo!

    Premier Icon cakefacesmallblock
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    One or two on here seem a little confused . :wink:I doubt the little fella Brailsford spoke with could care less right now about being a rider or a cyclist or….. Simple fact is he gave him time.

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    TBH, I’m happier to see my member fees going towards support for new riders and grassroots,mass-appeal events, than getting flung at 2-wheeled greyhound racing that practically nobody actually does. But it does seem to be missing hte point of the thread a bit…

    Euro
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    Is it Gary Glitter?

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