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  • Boris Johnson!
  • kimbers
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    But it does put a lot of pressure on him. See what BS and blister he comes up with this time.
    Delivering on Brexit, best employment ever yadda yadda whiff whaff….

    You’d hope it shows that lurching to the right on Rwanda, ECHR etc isn’t working and that he needs to ditch them, instead I reckon he’ll double down

    TiRed
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    52% turnout for a by-election is notable but a 30% swing is exceptional, party chairman resigning is priceless. They really didn’t want the conservatives and came out to make sure. And more than 50% of votes cast for the LDs. Must read well for a general election. The south west returning to its liberal roots.

    Results

    Richard Foord (LD) 22,537 (52.91%, +38.14%)
    Helen Hurford (Con) 16,393 (38.49%, -21.72%)
    Liz Pole (Lab) 1,562 (3.67%, -15.88%)
    Gill Westcott (Green) 1,064 (2.50%, -1.34%)

    LD maj 6,144 (14.43%)
    29.93% swing Con to LD
    Electorate 81,661; Turnout 42,591 (52.16%)
    2019 Con maj 24,239

    oldnpastit
    Full Member

    That is a pretty awful result for the Lib Dems. I just watched Helen Hurford defending Boris, just dreadful, dreadful – how was there *anyone* who voted for her?

    shermer75
    Free Member

    Incredibly satisfying news this morning!

    shermer75
    Free Member

     instead I reckon he’ll double down

    Yup

    shermer75
    Free Member

    We could probably have a little desperation policy bingo in fact. Bring back pounds, shillings and pence perhaps?

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Apparently Dowden was due on the the morning media rounds but no minister stepping up to replace him

    eddiebaby
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    We could probably have a little desperation policy bingo in fact. Bring back pounds, shillings and pence perhaps?

    Only if he can privatise the Mint and let some ‘suitable’ chaps run it…

    BadlyWiredDog
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    That is a pretty awful result for the Lib Dems.

    It is?

    Klunk
    Free Member

    Dowden ran off with the day’s brief. leaving Raab to write his own.

    Klunk
    Free Member

    the tories have nailed their flag to the johnson mast and going to go down with all hands

    jag61
    Full Member

    Notable that dowden said ‘someone’ must take responsibility now he’s jacked is he that someone? letting bojo off the hook yet again overall a good result😁

    bruneep
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    Has Carrie got the tory chairperson job yet?

    kelvin
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    We won’t see her in public for a while. She’ll be in the fridge, hiding away.

    cookeaa
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    A swing to the Libdems in a by-election is a warning, not an outright rejection.

    The Wakefield result is a win for Labour, but not a landslide, Boris is very obviously damaging the Tories, but if he were to go tomorrow, I reckon their odds would still improve at the next GE…

    bruneep
    Full Member

    n0b0dy0ftheg0at
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    Wouldn’t at all be surprised to see an RMT strike resolution over the weekend, with Boris allowing a 7% rise, in attempt to rise his popularity out of the deepest cess pit.

    deadlydarcy
    Free Member

    Haven’t read bruneep’s link but while it’s enjoyable to see Dowden resign for just what it symbolises, it’s worth remembering what a pernicious **** he is. Dorries, as culture secretary, is useless and I’d rather see competence over that any day, everyone knows she’s just bit crazy and very few take her seriously. Dowden was a lot more damaging in his role. Properly scary at times in the levels to which he’d sink waging the anti-woke (forgive me, couldn’t think of anything else) culture war. He’s pissing off now as I guess he knows Johnson’s days are numbered, but he’ll be back.

    shermer75
    Free Member

    Only if he can privatise the Mint and let some ‘suitable’ chaps run it…

    Quite

    MoreCashThanDash
    Full Member

    A swing to the Libdems in a by-election is a warning, not an outright rejection.

    The Wakefield result is a win for Labour, but not a landslide, Boris is very obviously damaging the Tories, but if he were to go tomorrow, I reckon their odds would still improve at the next GE…

    A sensible perspective I think. Boris is the problem, not the Tory policies, is how many will see it.

    Flaperon
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    Just came on here to say this:

    “Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha”.

    There will be a queue of Tory MPs to stab the power-crazed maniac in the back at this point.

    zippykona
    Full Member

    ….and the Tories voted to keep the toxic turd for another year.
    Every scumbag mp is going to get a massive skidmark right up their back.
    All Tories are ****.

    PJM1974
    Free Member

    Woke up to some excellent news, Tiverton isn’t Tory for the first time in 99 years. Wakefield is now a Labour constituency and the odious toad Oliver Dowden has quit.

    Anyone who saw me in my car driving to work would’ve seen me laughing hysterically as I listened to Dominic Raab flailing around being interviewed for Radio 4. There is no plan beyond a steady slide towards authoritarianism and global irrelevance.

    Superficial
    Free Member

    A sensible perspective I think. Boris is the problem, not the Tory policies, is how many will see it.

    They have policies?

    stumpy01
    Full Member

    Yeah, Raab was not very good (is he ever?) On R4

    zippykona
    Full Member

    They have policies?

    I wrote to grayling saying shitti Patel should execute refugees on Ant and Dec to revive their fortunes.

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    They have policies?

    Stay in power at all costs
    Asset strip the UK for everything it has
    Get rich quick
    **** the poor

    Much like when Blackadder describes the MP Sir Talbot Buxomly:
    Well, according to `Who’s Who’, his interests include flogging servants, shooting poor people, and the extension of slavery to anyone who hasn’t got a knighthood.
    and Prince George replies: Excellent – sensible policies for a happier Britain!

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    I’m all up for ‘anyone but a Tory’ voting, but I do have a nagging doubt that the Lib Dems would jump into a coalition with the tories again at the first sniff of some power and influence. However, a bit like Tiverton, it’s the only hope of getting the Tory out. (West Devon and Torridge)

    binners
    Full Member

    Surely this must be the end?

    Not a chance. This is just something else to throw into the mix, along with all the rest of it. He is completely devoid of shame and has no interest in anything other than himself and his perceived entitlement to be PM

    Boris Johnson will be thinking only one thing this morning. “They can’t have another vote of no confidence in me for another twelve months”. Nothing else will even register with him.

    He’s going to take the whole ship and crew down with him. Which would be great if that was just the Tory party, but unfortunately we’re all on board with them

    shermer75
    Free Member

    They have policies?

    Yep:

    There is no plan beyond a steady slide towards authoritarianism 

    As in:

    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2022/jun/23/dramatic-fall-in-successful-high-court-challenges-to-government-policy

    PJM1974
    Free Member

    I’m seeing reports on Twitter that the Conservative candidate for Tiverton barricaded herself into a room during the count before storming off once the result was announced.

    As Devon Live Reports

    It’s pretty obvious that Helen Hurford has zero people skills. Her career is a little murky too, I can’t quite figure out whether she’s a former school head or the manager of a nail bar.

    Either way, the Tories are forced into scraping the bottom of the candidate barrel.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    A sensible perspective I think. Boris is the problem, not the Tory policies, is how many will see it.—-

    They have policies

    Exactly, problem for the Tories is that they have nothing beyond far right posturing, when there’s a cost of living crisis to deal with.

    The other pachyderm in the pantry is that the potential replacements are beyond horrendous!!

    TiRed
    Full Member

    1922 Committee meeting this evening, will be rule change by Monday. I’ll give it a month. Tories are ruthless when their majority is on the line. Raab is always poor on Today, never convincing. Probably because he’s not convinced himself, and he’s not stupid either.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    This thread sums it all up

    tjagain
    Full Member

    Raaaaaaab is stupid. No idea of how the world works.

    PJM1974
    Free Member

    Raab is always poor on Today, never convincing. Probably because he’s not convinced himself…

    Raab is about as hard-right as they get, which is why he has a cabinet job right now.

    …and he’s not stupid either.

    Au contraire.

    TiRed
    Full Member

    No idea of how the world works.

    That’s not the game though. The game is how POLITICS works. Top Grammar School in Buckinghamshire, Law at Oxford and a Masters from Cambridge, he’s not stupid.

    BruceWee
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    I’m seeing reports on Twitter that the Conservative candidate for Tiverton barricaded herself into a room during the count before storming off once the result was announced.

    Perhaps there were simply no convenient fridges nearby?

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Hurford was a terrible candidate

    Unfortunately she’s pretty similar to a lot of cabinet!

    kelvin
    Full Member

    Raab also keeps bringing up the “high wages” line this morning, as the answer to “what’s the plan” questions… after a week of ministers talking against higher wages.

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