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  • Boris Johnson!
  • sootyandjim
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    @chewkw – You need to do a bit more reading around this.

    Currently it is largely the French and Germans who are pushing for closer military ties within the EU but any such move would require unanimous agreement by EU member states.

    As it stands the Irish are not interested in such a force (due to their policy of neutrality and some Eastern European countries, such as Poland and the Baltic States are very much against the idea due to historical experience.

    The other overriding concern is the an ‘EU Army’ would undermine NATO, with which many EU member states have far more invested.

    It only takes one state to veto the formation of such a force and, as it stands, there are many who would use their veto.

    The ‘EU Army’ is nothing more than the wet dream of France, Germany and Brexiteers who need an easy soundbite to attack the larger EU.

    chewkw
    Free Member

    The ‘EU Army’ is nothing more than the wet dream of France, Germany and Brexiteers who need an easy soundbite to attack the larger EU.

    Based on me crystal ball their dream may come true which is scary …

    kelvin
    Full Member

    I know it’s hard to resist, I’m worse than most for falling for his ducking games, but please, do not feed the troll.

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    sootyandjim
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    I know it’s hard to resist, I’m worse than most for falling for his ducking games, but please, do not feed the troll.

    It’s odd that he’s kept it going for so long and still isn’t bored.

    dannyh
    Free Member

    It’s odd that he’s kept it going for so long and still isn’t bored.

    Not odd if you appreciate the needs and mentality of the typical troll.

    Killfile.

    mariner
    Free Member

    Why is Cummings now the defacto deputy PM?
    Who elected him?

    doris5000
    Full Member

    Why is Cummings now the defacto deputy PM?
    Who elected him?

    Look, the British people voted very clearly for powerful unelected bureaucrats. Why do you hate democracy?

    doris5000
    Full Member

    i just had to google the spelling of bureaucrats 🙁

    mariner
    Free Member

    Politico London Playbook has daily write a ups about the de facto PM Cummings threatening the Spads with dire consequences if anyone leaks stuff to the press.
    Seems he has sidelined the civil servants and brought in a load of Spads to carry out the juntas plans away from prying eyes.

    SpAd jihad: The most fun article of yesterday came via BuzzFeed’s Alex Wickham, who has a full read-out of Cummings’ big Monday morning meeting with his new SpAd army. One aide memorably describes his interventions over the past two weeks as a “jihad on SpAds.” The Times’ Steven Swinford also has the deets, and it’s comedy stuff — not least because Cummings’ main aim appears to have been to clamp down on, erm, leaks. Cummings apparently even claimed lobby hacks would reveal their best SpAd sources to him in return for a decent story. “My worth to journalists is far greater than yours,” Cummings apparently said. “For the right story they will rat you out.”

    Lolz: No they won’t. Journalists do not reveal their sources, ever. They certainly don’t trade them for tips from government officials. This is not a thing, SpAds. Fear not.

    willard
    Full Member

    Journalists do not reveal their sources, ever.

    You mean apart from the ones that did that at The Sunday Times? (https://www.private-eye.co.uk/street-of-shame).

    After reading a lot of this behaviour, I would say that honest journalists do not reveal sources.

    dangeourbrain
    Free Member

    SpAds

    Say whut?

    : No they won’t. Journalists do not reveal their sources, ever. They certainly don’t trade them for tips from government officials.

    In 1950 maybe, these days the number of journalists people who work in news who’ve shared a lift with integrity, let alone have their own is significantly smaller than those who’d sell their own children for a front page

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Cummings is simply sounding desperate if thats true

    Even if they squeeze a no deal brexit through before an election (which seems very likely at the moment) theres absolutely no certainty that johnson will win an election, especially if theres disruption & manufacturing chaos after no deal.

    nickc
    Full Member

    Spads = special advisors

    These are unelected bureaucrats, but obviously not those horrid EU unelected ones, but our own glorious ones that they told us we could have loads of once we left. If you don’t remember that happening, Dominic Rabb will be along in a minute to glare at you menacingly until you do

    dangeourbrain
    Free Member

    theres absolutely no certainty that johnson will win an election, especially if theres disruption & manufacturing chaos after no deal

    Beyond having put a few quid on it at Ladbroke I can’t see that Cummings could care less. His interest in Boris is purely down to Boris being a tool.

    DrJ
    Full Member

    Why is Cummings now the defacto deputy PM?
    Who elected him?

    Nobody. Very similar to who elected the actual PM.

    dangeourbrain
    Free Member

    Spads = special advisors

    Ah.

    I miss the days when things had an actual name.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    what peston said……….

    binners
    Full Member

    It is actually now a game of chicken withe two vehicles at either end of a runway with both drivers about to floor it towards each other, head on

    The problem with that being that they’re in a fully loaded artic, while Boris is in a little clown car that the doors keep falling off

    onehundredthidiot
    Full Member

    The game of chicken analogy is slightly off. Boris (and the whole country) are jammed in a clapped out Yugo going flat out. The EU are at home chillin’ to some tunes, no need for shows of machismo.
    Yet somehow Boris will still manage to crash.

    BaronVonP7
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    Boris, as PM, crashes UK out of EU.
    Boris, with Brexit pals, strong arms “emergency” trade deal with US that give the US ALL the cards.
    Boris quits after first term/booted out.
    Boris goes home.
    Levers are pulled, buttons are pushed, some palms crossed.
    Boris begins journey to become US president.
    After all, what could be more American than a boy from the Upper East Side of Manhattan?

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    dangeourbrain
    Free Member

    Boris, with Brexit pals, strong arms “emergency” trade deal with US that give the US ALL the cards.

    I don’t think there’s any trade deal to be done with between UK USA in which the USA doesn’t hold all the cards*, emergency or otherwise.

    *Admittedly I can imagine Borris trying to play big stakes poker with his favourite pokemon cards.

    mariner
    Free Member

    I see Cummings – the Uncle Duke of No10 – has challenged Grieve over VONC.
    While parliament is in recess they have a clear run at getting all the headlines and strutting their stuff. Roll on 3 September.

    mariner
    Free Member

    Another interesting take on Uncle Duke the voice in Johnsons head.
    If you thought a Labour government would be bad prepare to be transformed.
    https://www.politico.eu/article/inside-the-mind-of-boris-johnsons-right-hand-man/

    BaronVonP7
    Free Member

    In Cummings’ grand vision, the U.K. would take on “a central role in tackling humanity’s biggest problems and shaping the new institutions, displacing the EU and UN, that will emerge as the world makes painful transitions in coming decades.”

    Is he 14 years old?

    tjagain
    Full Member

    He will have to tho at some point he will lose a confidence vote.

    mrmonkfinger
    Free Member

    I see he’s throwing 100 million at the prisons.

    Expecting a big riot, I guess.

    dangeourbrain
    Free Member

    He will have to tho at some point he will lose a confidence vote.

    And thanks to JC insisting earlier in the week that Labour wouldn’t support a tory no confidence motion so he can launch his own plan of a coup we’re stuck with Bo Jo.

    I don’t think I’m the only one who thinks he wouldn’t go.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    And thanks to JC insisting Labour wouldn’t support a tory no confidence motion

    What? cite please

    mrmonkfinger
    Free Member

    #10 still punting the £350 mil for NHS thing, from that link:

    “There is a clear choice: Either Jeremy Corbyn as prime minister who will overrule the referendum and wreck the economy, or Boris Johnson as prime minister who will respect the referendum and deliver more money for the NHS and more police on our streets.

    Also, tractor production will be increased.

    MSP
    Full Member

    He will defiantly deliver more police in the street, he is going to need them to enforce his rule. There will probably be special squads deployed by the information ministry to eradicate non believers.

    Actually they won’t be the police, the police so far isn’t a profitable section of public expenditure, more like private security services in brown shirts enforcing his political rhetoric and streaming public money into his rich buddies bank accounts.

    5thElefant
    Free Member

    Actually they won’t be the police, the police so far isn’t a profitable section of public expenditure, more like private security services in brown shirts enforcing his political rhetoric and streaming public money into his rich buddies bank accounts.

    Maybe they should try and recruit from disillusioned Momentum blackshirts?

    dangeourbrain
    Free Member

    What? cite please

    From the guardian – I can’t quickly find a link to the story from earlier in the week but as I heard it, he flatly refused to support the suggestion of a national unity govt. (proposed by tory backbenchers) led by a centrist.

    His letter threw down the gauntlet to the Lib Dems, the SNP, Plaid Cymru, the Greens and rebel Tories, at a time when MPs opposed to no deal have been discussing a “national unity government” led by a centrist figure.

    Corbyn’s proposal makes it clear that the Labour frontbench consider he is the only politician who could lead a caretaker government, rather than a backbench candidate such as Tory veteran Ken Clarke or Labour’s Yvette Cooper.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    I see trump has a new pet

    Harry_the_Spider
    Full Member

    His brother is advising how foreign investors can clean up in the forthcoming fire sale.

    These **** should be put against a wall and shot.

    BillMC
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    kimbers
    Full Member

    Johnsons delusions of grandeur coming to the fore ?

    BigButSlimmerBloke
    Free Member

    Queen asked to suspend parliament
    So, in the interests of democracy, a man elected by a few hundred people will deny the people elected by the whole country to represent them the right to debate one of the biggest issues this country has faced. All I can say is thank fk I’m leaving

    EDIT and for those looking for a silver lining, here’s one. The Working Times Directive will no longer apply so although a doctor who’s been working for 20 hours without a break might mistakenly prescribe the wrong drug there’s unlikely to be any of that drug for you to take.

    dissonance
    Full Member

    Its worth remembering Johnsons words about an PM who hasnt led the government into an election.

    “It’s the arrogance. It’s the contempt. That’s what gets me. It’s Gordon Brown’s apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people. It’s at moments like this that I think the political world has gone mad, and I am alone in detecting the gigantic fraud.”

    So Johnson admitting to being undemocratic by his own standards there.

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