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  • Boardman Road bikes
  • Premier Icon Kryton57
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    In my quest to find a semi aero, disc road bike and having decided £5000 is too much, I came across this:

    Now at first glance, thats quite a good looking bike.  Then you’re hit with headlines such as “Carbon” “Di2”, “7.6kg” “Aero” and £3,300 which feels like terribly good value.

    Yet get into the detail, thats stock “Boardman” Alu cockpit with no integration and Alex Rims wheels, hmmm although with a glass half full that says “upgrade potential”.

    It gets good reviews, wheels and cockpit could be upgraded but not cheaply really,  do we care that is says Boardman on the down tube?   Is Boardman good value, or not?

    Premier Icon GHill
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    If you’re going to change the cockpit and wheels straight away then no, not good value.

    If you’re snobby about Alex carbon wheels, then I think you should be snobby about it saying Boardman on the side. 😉

    Premier Icon chakaping
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    The wheels must be a competitive weight if that 7.6kg overall figure is accurate (it says 8kg on the website). So how important is cockpit cable integration to you?

    I would buy it, but I actually have a previous version, the Endurance SLR – and have been very impressed with it.

    If it helps, I’ve been very impressed with it: good, light high-mod frame, great geometry, goes fast, reviews said it was a bit harsh but it’s just right for me with 28c tyres at suitable pressure (and wheels upgraded to Prime carbon).

    Handlebar is a nice shape but oddly thin. I’m gonna double-wrap it though, as I prefer a bit more girth.

    Premier Icon stevious
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    Would you be able to find a similar bike with integrated cables and fancier wheels at the same price?

    Premier Icon w00dster
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    I had a bit of a discussion on a similar subject yesterday with Mrs W.
    I’m booked in to look at the Spec Tarmac SL7 Pro next week, £6500.
    I also like the look of the Scott Addict, the Ultegra RC 30 is available in my size and £3300. But I’d want to upgrade the bars, wheels and move to Di2 (I can’t find a Di2 version in my size). Mrs W just said I’m going to spend a year moaning about it not being the spec I wanted, there’s no value in buying the bike spec you don’t really want, unless budget dictates, buy lower and upgrade over time. During the time while waiting for upgrades I’d never be really happy. But I reckon those wheels would be fine for now, cockpit upgrade would be interesting to see if you can put integrated bars on it, presume you can but might need to check.
    But would you be happy with Boardman on the side? Wouldn’t bother me, but it’s really only you who can answer that.

    Premier Icon w00dster
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    Kryton, also worth thinking about whether future resale is going to be an issue for you? Boardman likely more difficult to still get top dollar for.

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    the Scott Addict, the Ultegra RC 30

    I’m also looking at that bike, and a Canyon Ultimate Ultegra Di2.  The cockpit integration is not really a thing TBH, I won’t be doing anything that requires such marginal gains.

    But would you be happy with Boardman on the side

    Don’t know, what started as a significant Birthday present has morphed into a “I’d like a nice bike with discs but what’s the point of shelling out a boat load of Money for a club run just because I’m a little older”

    At the rate I’m going I’ll be keeping the one I have and using the money I’ve saved for an armchair to see my days out in.

    Premier Icon JollyGreenGiant
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    I think that Boardman looks good value for money. I think once you get beyond £3k it’s very much a case of diminishing returns and that bike ticks all of the boxes in terms of weight and spec.
    The resale wouldn’t worry me simply as you have saved so much up front.

    Premier Icon chakaping
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    Looks like the kind of bike you could easily keep for more than five years and not worry about it getting outdated.

    By which point you might be selling it on to a newer or less fussy buyer, and Boardmans (Boardmen?) seem to hold their value well at lower prices… probably as they have a good rep as value bikes.

    Premier Icon NZCol
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    I’ve had a Boardman roadie for 3 years – it’s black and silver and has Dura Ace di2 , Carbon wheels etc. Bits are a bit cheap but it was 3250! And fits perfectly . All I get is Jibes about my Halfords bike 😂

    Premier Icon w00dster
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    If you’re not too worried about marginal gains then you may find the wheels absolutely fine. Are they the deep carbon wheels in the picture or is that a Wilier trick, picture of the bike looks great and small print says it’s only an example and spec is different?
    I had an Aeroad, sold it very recently, had it 2 years. Being honest I was never really settled on it. Little niggles that took time to sort out. Personally wouldn’t go Canyon again, I didn’t have a bad experience as such, but would now rather buy from a lbs.

    Premier Icon tpbiker
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    It’s a nice bike but for 100 quid more i bought a tcr advnced pro 0 disk, which came with di2, slr carbon wheels, and a dual sided stages powermeter.

    Sure it was on sale, but you have an awful lot of options for £3500 quid if you look around.

    Basically the boardman is nice, but I wouldn’t pay 3.3k for it.

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    stages powermeter

    Is the Giant branded PM actually stages then?

    Premier Icon stevemuzzy
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    If its any help I bought a baordman team pro carbon 10 years ago, through bike to work and for about 800 quid when all said and done.

    It was as light as 2k bikes, looked as good and with the addition of some cosmic carbone wheels goes like stink.

    10 years later it still looks good against even new bikes

    Premier Icon MoreCashThanDash
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    Just to go off tangent, I have a Scott Addict non Di2 version and I couldn’t find an equivalent Spesh/Trek etc offering anything like value for money. Lovely bike to ride.

    Premier Icon tpbiker
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    Is the Giant branded PM actually stages then?

    Good point! No it’s not. Now I think about it, it came with a giant power meter originally which didn’t work. Giant knew they had an issue with the 1st version so swapped it out for a stages dual sided at no extra cost.

    I believe the 2nd version up of the giant power meter is much improved.

    Premier Icon footflaps
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    but what’s the point of shelling out a boat load of Money for a club run just because I’m a little older

    Because riding a really nice bike is just really nice, even if its only a club run!

    I’m loving my Orbea Orca, I thought my Scott CR1 wasn’t that dated, but the Orca makes the CR1 feel like riding a blancmange. Gobsmacked by how much carbon frames have come on and what a really modern race frame rides like (very fast). Even if I only win sprints for the village signs, its worth it 😉

    Premier Icon imnotverygood
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    How about one of these? Anyone got one?
    https://www.orrobikes.com/shop/2021-venturi-ultegra-di2

    Premier Icon joebristol
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    I’d get that Boardman for the money if there’s nothing else with similar kit for the money. I’ve had a boardman carbon road bike a few years back (Team Carbon with 10 speed rival and rim brakes) and it was great. Got it for £1k in a sale and after 7 years good use I sold it for £350. Sold really quick. All I did in that time was out better brakes on and replaced the Ritchey wheels with Aksiums as the freehub gave up and the rims were concave.

    7.6kg for a bike with discs and semi aero features and fairly deep dish carbon wheels is good anyway – regardless of the price. Boardman not a drama for me – I’d swap my Cannondale Caad12 disc with Di2 and hunt wheels in a flash for that Boardman.

    Premier Icon mikertroid
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    Regarding the branding: I ride a Boardman FS Pro and am always amazed at how much faff riders undergo with their boutique £3k+ bikes at trail centres (on the occasions I go), whereas I just get on my bike and go. I’m pretty sure, whilst being no riding god, I’m enjoying my day as much as the rest and if Strava is anything to go by, they’re behind me for the most part anyhow. Perhaps the boutique brands need more care on the trails?!

    I therefore wouldn’t think twice about spending more money on a Boardman; they’re really good bikes. There’s a certain pleasure in seeing the disbelief when brand snobs see what you’re riding!

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    How about one of these? Anyone got one?

    Thats amazing value and gets good review.  Ultegra 8000 comes in at £2700, who needs l’ectric gears anyway…

    Premier Icon kirky72
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    I would be looking at the new giant tcr pro 1 disk, not much more comes with power metre, proved and tested frame and better wheels but alas not di2.

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    Perhaps the boutique brands need more care on the trails?!

    Having owned a few expensive bikes (although not traditional boutique brands) this is not the case. The reason people faff and preen with them is that they are obsessed with kit, which is why they’ve spent so much money on them.

    Premier Icon Oblongbob
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    I’m looking at upgrading my Boardman team carbon (2011, I think), mainly because I want discs, I quite fancy di2, especially if the new bike has got internal cables (and they all do these days), and it only takes 25mm tyres. It’s been great and I find it pretty comfy and fast. I’ve done many thousands of miles on it. To be honest the only original bits are the frame, fork, stem and seatpost, but that’s due to wearing out almost everything else rather then there being anything wrong with anything on it.

    I quite enjoy the snobbery, and find pleasure when overtaking those same snobby folk on their 5x more expensive superbikes in events (sad, I know, but I can’t help it).

    Not sure whether to get something more “endurance” and comfort focussed, or embrace this aero stuff.

    Premier Icon mikertroid
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    Having owned a few expensive bikes (although not traditional boutique brands) this is not the case. The reason people faff and preen with them is that they are obsessed with kit, which is why they’ve spent so much money on them.

    I guess they ride slowly to preserve their investment. Sounds boring to me! 🤣

    Premier Icon chakaping
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    Not sure whether to get something more “endurance” and comfort focussed, or embrace this aero stuff.

    With wider tyres and frame design features like dropped seat stays and aero tube profiles, comfort and aero/race bikes seem to have converged a bit now.

    Have a look at reviews of bikes like the supersix.

    Premier Icon joebristol
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    I went out with some people I haven’t been out with before in the weekend and faffage was at the Max. Digital tyre pressure gauges, shock pumps, playing with brakes and even changing a fork.

    I thought I faffed but that’s mostly just getting knee pads / shoes on / bag packed more than anything.

    More expensive bikes don’t generally need more love – just a lot of people who buy them like everything to be exactly right I guess.

    I had a Boardman Pro Fs and I’d say it needed more love of the pivots to stop it creaking all the time. It worked great but the bearings were fairly small and the main pivot could have been better designed. Swapped to a Bird Aeris which isn’t boutique or particularly fancy, but it was just decently designed, had bigger bearings and locking collets on the main pivots. No creaking.

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    They’ve made great bikes for a long time (my boardman fast hybrid is an absolute weapon) and let’s be honest, road bikes aren’t that complicated so it’s not like it needs cutting edge R&D or a genius designer.

    The thing with controls/bars is, you could get one that’s got top end, expensive, ideal looking stuff on it but that doesn’t mean it’ll fit you right. So the cockpit’s one of the best places to save money on a complete bike, and means you can fit exactly what you want. Better to have cheaper alu parts that fit than expensive carbon parts that don’t, and definitely better if you end up flinging them on ebay to have less invested in them

    Wheels are not so simple though.

    People say “would you be happy on a boardman”, and tbh snobs might look down on you, and who cares, they’re dicks. Most people will double take it and realise what it really is. And some people will go “urgh, halfords bike” then feel double pain when you drop them. It’s nice not to have a brand to live up to, sometimes.

    Premier Icon tpbiker
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    All depends how much you want di2 I guess. If you drop di2 from the requirements you get a much bigger choice of bikes in that price range.

    For what it’s worth di2 is great, but it would come right at the bottom of my priority list when it comes to a road bike. Mechanical gears are so good the difference is absolutely minimal.

    Premier Icon alpin
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    Whilst in Halfords picking up the bike grab a rattle can and give it a respray when you get home.

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    All depends how much you want di2 I guess. If you drop di2 from the requirements you get a much bigger choice of bikes in that price range.

    For what it’s worth di2 is great, but it would come right at the bottom of my priority list when it comes to a road bike. Mechanical gears are so good the difference is absolutely minimal.

    This is definitely in mind.   I’ve essentially been looking at mechanical Ultegra.  The bikes essentially fall into 3 camps, £2k, £3k and £4k depending on the material and what’s in the down tube.  But then you get oddity’s like a £4K Cervelo Caledonia 5 with DT Swiss P1800 – liveable but £4000 – with what is essentially some lower grade wheels.   For £3k I can get a Giant TCR with a PM and own brand SlR1’s, good carbon rims, and in between a Tarmac or Cannondale.

    Ive only found two bikes that’s heart felt currently and that and Otlre XR3 or Infinito CV, the former being cheaper but both are £4.5k.  I did find a Colnago V3 for £3.5k but that feels a bit like a budget version of the real thing (VRS3).

    it’s a minefield.

    Premier Icon footflaps
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    Mechanical gears are so good the difference is absolutely minimal.

    Yep, I’ve got SRAM Force eTap and Shimano 105 on summer / winter bikes and they both shift as good as each other. Althought the eTap buttons work way better with gloves than Di2 as there’s only one button on each shifter for up/down, so you can’t hit the wrong one.

    Premier Icon Rockhopper
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    Don’t forget that Halfords bought the Boardman brand back in 2014 – Chris has no involvement with it any more.

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    Have a look at reviews of bikes like the supersix.

    How did Cannondale make a bike with such stunning reviews yet the dullest paintjob?

    Not sure about owning one tbh, I’m old enough to remember the MTB crack ‘n fail jokes.

    Premier Icon footflaps
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    How did Cannondale make a bike with such stunning reviews yet the dullest paintjob?

    yep, a friend has one and they could have done so much better eg bright blue like a Canyon would look amazing. It has to be the dullest looking bike out there.

    Premier Icon lunge
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    I’ll go against the grain here and say that, good as mechanical gears are now, Di2 is a class above. I won’t buy a best road bike without it, I love it.

    I would however agree that I would prefer not to have an integrated bar and stem, I’d want to get the shape and length right without it being a pain in the backside.

    Wheels? Well, every road bike I’ve bought I’d ended up changing the wheels, so I’d budget for that personally.

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    I’m old enough to remember the MTB crack ‘n fail jokes.

    You’re saying that a major manufacturer has not modified their designs to address an issue in 25 years?

    Premier Icon tpbiker
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    Well, every road bike I’ve bought I’d ended up changing the wheels, so I’d budget for that personally.

    You wouldn’t need to change the wheels of the tcr he referenced. I have them on my bike, light, stiff, tubeless. Got great reviews as well.

    For 3k I think the tcr is a no brainer, even if not di2. Note though, it is a bit if a head down racer. I also have a defy and it’s a bit more civilized for most applications

    Premier Icon joebristol
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    I don’t know much about the Alex rims on the Boardman but they can’t be wildly heavy if the whole bike comes in at 7.6kg surely?

    My Caad12 disc is about 8.5kgs I think (analogue luggage scales) – that’s a frame of about 1100g I believe, 1550g hunt wheels, Conti gp4000’s in 25c size, si cranks with Spiderings and Ultegra Di2. The rest of the build kit is standard Cannondale the at came on a 105 discs build so won’t be especially light, but even still – it’s nearly 1kg heavier than the Boardman.

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    The Boardman is 8kbtw, the 7.6kg came from a review of the rim brake version I read.

    I know of two TCR’s – an Advanced Pro 2 disc Ultegra for £3k and an Advanced Pro 0 Di2 Disc for £3800.   I also know where there’s an Oltre XR3 CV Disc for £3300…

    The more I think about this the more I think about my current Rim brake, 50mms shod 105 bike which is 7.2kg and rides so well, so I really need a new one?  Not really…

    The annoying thing about this search is that there’s always a compromise.  Well maybe except for the TCR but then its “just” a Giant….

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