- Best car in the snow?
Wife had a bashed up 1.0 Corsa poverty spec, regardless of how much you tried to recreate Colin McRae, because it was the lightest thing to push out and was already a bit biffed, it never ended up in a hedge and always got us places.Posted 5 years ago
Most limiting fact for the MX5 that replaced it is clearance, front of the car becomes like a plough ’round here.
Our Land Rover sits on ZXL’s, narrow, wide spaced, deep tyres, so you’ll find us still towing firewood in bumper deep snow.
Tractor is a bit rubbish with wide tyres and torque, just doesn’t seem to bite and is a bit disturbing with high centre of gravity.thisisnotaspoonMember
E class Mercedes estates and Focii came out worst on the other thread, so what’s the best car in the snow?
I’m going to disagree with the latter, I’ve accomplished some feats of stupidity in mine on summer tyres (admittedly rainexperts), front engine front wheel drive, what’s not to like?Posted 5 years agoP20Subscriber
Wor lasses Fabia proves that lightweight on skinny winter tyres is pretty unstoppable too.
I’m sure the Xantia is front handbrake as it allows the rear swingarm to move when you’re altering the suspension height
The works Focus estates (RRV Paramedic) prove that winter tyres make a massive difference. With the weight in the boot, they’re fairly useless in the snowPosted 5 years agoandylMember
ZX is conventional rear handbrake. Rear disc models, like many small cars with rear discs that are for hydraulic and mechanical brake, are terrible. b r – they are not separate calipers. Separate calipers like you get on bigger cars with a drum/disc (drum for handbrake, disc for hydraulics) don’t have the slipping problem and the handbrake never really wears out if you only apply it when stationary.
Back on topic though…yes any car with winter tyres and job done.
But I have been impressed by Peugeot 106s in the snow. But that is just because they are a small light car with narrow tyres.
I’d like to pick up a Lada Niva for driving around in winter though. You can get them in Russia with the Peugeot 2 litre HDI engine as used in the 306 etc and you could get them with the old 1.9 turbo diesel. Stick a bosch pump on one of those and you can run it on straight veg for nice cheap running.Posted 5 years agozokesMember
My Mk IV Golf GTI seemed bizarrely good. It had many things that made you think it shouldn’t be – low profile, wide tyres, low clearance, lots of power to only two wheels, but if you started off in 2nd or 3rd and were gentle, it would go almost anywhere – also behaved very well beyond the edges of traction too. That said, all my cars I’ve driven in anger in the snow (MkV Escort, late model 306 and a MkIII Mondeo) coped fine in hilly, snowy Snowdonia.
Worst, by a country mile, was a MkIII Focus hire car I picked up from the airport. That’s the only car I’ve ever driven that got stuck, absolutely fast, on a flat piece of road (on my parents’ street, en route to theirs to pick up a shovel for just such an eventuality!). It took three of us to shift it even after digging. ****ing awful.Posted 5 years agoglobaltiMember
Mrs Gti’s diesel Citroen C1 was brilliant in snow as it has narrow tyres and the engine over the driving wheels. It’s also quite short and has a sharp handbrake so does good handbrake turns. Fitted with winter tyres it was unstoppable.
Haven’t had a chance to test her new Ibiza on snow yet but I’ve fitted Avon Ice Touring tyres and they look amazing.Posted 5 years agoboxbusterMember
I’ve got a 3.0 V6 Jaguar x-type saloon which is AWD, even with summer tyres on its brilliant in the snow.
Seem to remember watching an old Jeremy Clarkson programme where he raced one against a skier down a ski run so should be good!
Edit: [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QvSymMUL4A[/video]Posted 5 years agorobinlaidlawMember
Impreza Turbo on winter tyres. Unstoppable until it was actually pushing quite a depth of snow with the front bumper. Fantastic handling in the snow too, totally stable off boost and then becomes the easiest thing in the world to drive sideways when it comes on boost. On summer tyres it did surprisingly well but it’s ability to get moving was not supported by an ability to stop reliably 😯Posted 5 years agocr500domSubscriber
I built my Ex 2xGolf mk2 Syncros for her winter stays in Meribel, fitted with snow tyres it was unstoppable even in bumper deep snow.
Never needed chains (Although she had them) in 8 winters spent living above 1400m.
As its FWD until it needs the extra traction, it still behaves “Safely” at the limit of grip.
My Audi 90 Quattro (On snow tyres again)that I was using, was arguably more fun as you could lock the centre and rear diff, but you could also get into a lot of trouble with it as well. it was still a big lump with a lot of inertia and wasnt so easy to bring back again once it all started getting out of shape.
This winter I`ve been driving a 130i BMW….. 265hp and rwd. snow tyres meant I never got stuck and had a lot of fun.
Narrow Winter tyres have higher ground pressure and are the key to progress.
Limited slip Diffs, 4wd etc only help traction once you have grip, that is only provided by those 4 tiny tyre contact patches….
Look at tyre sizes on wrc cars in finland, or Andros trophy Ice racers in France……. 400+hp and 0-100mph in 4 seconds on sheet ice
Tyre tread widths are typically in the region of 135mm……. less than any poverty model shopping trolley standard tyres
Thats why things like 2cvPosted 5 years ago
s , Renault 4s etc were so good, narrow tyres, higher contact pressure 😉stevomcdSubscriber
My Landrover Defender TD5 on winter tyres. Unbelievable. I reckon I could get it up to the top of the first ski lift here.
Last week, we had a freeze/thaw spell and some horrendous ice formed around the resort. I parked my minibus up near the top of the resort, only to have it slide sideways (downhill) on ice into the car next to it.
I took the Defender up there, roped it up to the minibus, then pulled it sideways back up the hill to get it off the other car. Getting enough traction on the same ice that made the minibus slide in the first place!Posted 5 years ago
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