- This topic has 336 replies, 97 voices, and was last updated 12 years ago by mr_mills.
-
Bearing, bearings, bearings, Who thinks they know the score?
-
Hello and welcome to my thread.
Come in you know you want to and make yourselves at home, you know you always do anyway.
Please bare one thing in mind not reading and not responding is two different things.
Heard a lot of arguments on hear about bearings.
Heard a lot of arguments on hear about nothing.
Cheap sh1t or performance, pregreased or not.
Should you remove the seals and won't that damage the bearings.
Should they slightly resist movement or should they rotate as freely as possible.
I argue that performance bearings if you can get them at the right prices are the better option and that all bearings in mountain bike applications should be caged and fully 100% pregreased.
I do not believe that full compliment bearings should be used, even though they are better at dealing with heavier loads over Chinese bearings.
Let's be hearing you then, you know you can't resist posting. On the other hand since I just wrote that you might feel the over whelming urge not to post.
Should we run budget / generic or performance bearings in our bikes.
What do you run and why?
Posted 12 years agoWho gives a F*ck.
Posted 12 years agoI chose hubs with 6000 series bearings which cost about 60p each. I don't mind changing them when they die, but even the cheapest bearings seem OK for at least 6 months. I add my own grease before fitting.
Elsewhere I've got CK headsets and UN54 BB's. Sorted.
And I adjust and regrease my M540 pedals whenever they need it.
Posted 12 years agoHey Simonfbarnes. another one of your photo's? not a bad photo and it does emphasieze the point. What kind of bike do you run?
Posted 12 years agoFull complement bearings in frame pivots as they rock rather than rotate so see a lot of high static load. Quality bearings for me and I always clean and repack with lots of sticky grease.
Posted 12 years ago@simon1975 You can get SKF bearings in those sizes for pretty cheap, Pregreasing is a must. Most bearings are specific to rotational application so the grease isn't really water proof. Pivot point grease you can run most stuff like marine but hub/bb grease you need to get the right viscosity/water proof combo. At least that's what I think.
Posted 12 years agoWhat kind of bike do you run?
hard to say, a hardtail with most of the paint missing 🙂
Posted 12 years agoI don't go in for full compliment. If you rotate an enduro max and then rotate an SKF, INA, NSK etc. you can feel the enduro max are no match for the Top end bearings. They are a lot better than the chinese or cheap jap / taiwanese bearings giant and specialized run. JNK or TPI are the two main brands and NBK also supplies them for some pivot points.
Posted 12 years agoDo you run any full sus frames?
Posted 12 years agoWith a hardtail what maintenance is required to keep bearings happy? How can you tell when a bearing needs replacing? Does replacing bearings before the wear becomes too serious prevent other more expensive parts being damaged (as with chains and sprockets)?
Posted 12 years agoDoes replacing bearings before the wear becomes too serious prevent other more expensive parts being damaged
it means you can remove the bearing by hitting the inner race which is much easier than trying to prise out the outer race after the inner has shattered 🙂
Do you run any full sus frames?
isn't FS for tarts who can't ride properly ???
Posted 12 years agoBearings? Nope…I have a life…much betterer
Posted 12 years agoSame as any other frame with a headset crank or wheels etc. Make sure they rotate smoothly.
As for damage from worn bearings. The worst is when the bearing binds or siezes and rotates in the housing and wares it away. Kona rockers are a perfect example of this.
As for checking the bearings, the most basic check on the back end is to remove the rear shock and run the back end gently through it's travel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tREkC3fVzXM
To be honest though with the amount of leverage the rear end gives you, it's still hard to tell.
Posted 12 years agoOr blokes like me with gammy backs, full sus is for anyone wanting more performance at the cost of forward momentum
Posted 12 years agoPosted 12 years agoSo where can we buy these high quality bearings, pre-greased and sealed from Kaesae?
Posted 12 years agoYou need to hunt about and try different brands and see which ones you like. I only sell to people who I want to go biking, sorry!
Posted 12 years agoBearings are easy – if the bike isn't right, the nice man at Nicolai makes it better…
Posted 12 years agoAGGGGGGGGG, MAKE IT STOP, PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do not believe that full compliment bearings should be used, even though they are better at dealing with heavier loads over Chinese bearings.
And that just makes no sense?
Unless the chinese bearing is a type I've missed.Bearings, come from BETD, the local transmission/bearing shop, the original manufacturer depending on who's cheepest or been best in the past and whether they're a standard size or a manufacturers own.
Posted 12 years agoWhat about the people who run FS bikes which haven't needed to change them at all yet? Orange Fives have bearings guaranteed for 5 years? Mine are still going strong ater 18 months?
Posted 12 years agonoooo – Chinese bearings are special and can take more load and, with the "special sauce" that kaesae fits, they are more waterproof than a nuclear submarine…
Posted 12 years agoChinese bearings? This thread is just wong.
Posted 12 years agoGot to admire his perseverance.
Posted 12 years agoSimple this isnotaspoon. most cheap bearing in this country are chinese or euopean or crap jap/taiwanese, I would rather run enduro max over those.
However I would rather run top end bearings like FAG INA or SKF over Enduro max.
Posted 12 years agoI use Ceramic Speed bearings.
Posted 12 years agoso what bike are you fitting these bearings to, kaesae?
Posted 12 years agoisn't FS for tarts who can't ride properly ???
I guess that's why he was surprised you ride a hardtail simon. 😆
Posted 12 years agoGrease… there are so many kinds. For years I used the finish line white teflon stuff but it seems to dry out and generally be a bit rubbish. I then had some lovely red stuff which I cannot remember what it was but it was super thick and stayed where I put it – although using it for Hope hubs was a mistake since the pawls would not move and it made the hub feel sticky.
I've now got a tube of Weldtite which is red but I'm pretty underwhelemd with it other than it being the same colour as the good stuff I had – but fien for the hub application.
So… one grease for bearings that rotate a lot like hubs… and another thicker one for headsets and pivots which do not rotate a lot… does that make sense?
Posted 12 years agoallthegear – Member
so what bike are you fitting these bearings to, kaesae?several hundred so far throughout europe.
Posted 12 years agoI only sell to people who I want to go biking, sorry!
Ehh???? 😯
Mighty strange sales patter there!
Posted 12 years ago***WARNING – KATEC ADVERTISEMENT***
Did this type of thread not get you banned on another forum!!!
Posted 12 years agoMessiah. I agree the right grease is vital. I think they stopped making that pink grease. I spoke to a guy in a shop a while back and he mentioned it, can't remember the name. Good budget grease for hubs is moly grease. Same stuff as rocknroll grease without the ouch factor in the price.
Posted 12 years agoCool – that's quite a lot – did you say before that you had a bad back or something?
Posted 12 years agoSV purses at dawn
Posted 12 years agosv – Member
***WARNING – KATEC ADVERTISEMENT***Did this type of thread not get you banned on another forum!!!
No saying SteveL had a little kingdom to sell his sh1t on and lots of minions that munch butts got me banned.
Posted 12 years agoI guess that's why he was surprised you ride a hardtail simon.
ya got me 🙂 I'll admit bouncing around all over the place on hardtail gives me an excuse for being slow :o)
Posted 12 years agoI only sell to people who I want to go biking, sorry!
I only buy bearings of people who don't really get on my wick, it's kinda the opposite of a sybyotic (sp?) relationship.
Posted 12 years agoMTBRIDER.COM
Roll up Roll up, worship me or get banned!
OOH SteveL you're so cool!
OOH SteveL that thread about commencal bearings for a measly £69.99 is amazing.
OOH SteveL you the second coming of Jesus Christ.Talk about creepy.
Posted 12 years agothisisnotaspoon – Member
AGGGGGGGGG, MAKE IT STOP, PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Boyfriend got a new toy sunshine?
Posted 12 years ago
The topic ‘Bearing, bearings, bearings, Who thinks they know the score?’ is closed to new replies.
Sign up as a Singletrack Member and you can leave comments on stories, use the classified ads, and post in our forums, do quizzes and more.
Join us, join in, it’s free, and fun.