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  • Bumhands
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    Who gives a F*ck.

    simonfbarnes
    Member

    Who gives a F*ck.

    people who fit bearing themselves, particularly people given to riding through rivers all the time:

    I tried cheapo bearings but they last no time at all, just a few weeks 🙁

    Premier Icon simon1975
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    I chose hubs with 6000 series bearings which cost about 60p each. I don't mind changing them when they die, but even the cheapest bearings seem OK for at least 6 months. I add my own grease before fitting.

    Elsewhere I've got CK headsets and UN54 BB's. Sorted.

    And I adjust and regrease my M540 pedals whenever they need it.

    kaesae
    Member

    Hey Simonfbarnes. another one of your photo's? not a bad photo and it does emphasieze the point. What kind of bike do you run?

    Premier Icon Onzadog
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    Full complement bearings in frame pivots as they rock rather than rotate so see a lot of high static load. Quality bearings for me and I always clean and repack with lots of sticky grease.

    kaesae
    Member

    @simon1975 You can get SKF bearings in those sizes for pretty cheap, Pregreasing is a must. Most bearings are specific to rotational application so the grease isn't really water proof. Pivot point grease you can run most stuff like marine but hub/bb grease you need to get the right viscosity/water proof combo. At least that's what I think.

    simonfbarnes
    Member

    What kind of bike do you run?

    hard to say, a hardtail with most of the paint missing 🙂

    kaesae
    Member

    I don't go in for full compliment. If you rotate an enduro max and then rotate an SKF, INA, NSK etc. you can feel the enduro max are no match for the Top end bearings. They are a lot better than the chinese or cheap jap / taiwanese bearings giant and specialized run. JNK or TPI are the two main brands and NBK also supplies them for some pivot points.

    kaesae
    Member

    Do you run any full sus frames?

    With a hardtail what maintenance is required to keep bearings happy? How can you tell when a bearing needs replacing? Does replacing bearings before the wear becomes too serious prevent other more expensive parts being damaged (as with chains and sprockets)?

    simonfbarnes
    Member

    Does replacing bearings before the wear becomes too serious prevent other more expensive parts being damaged

    it means you can remove the bearing by hitting the inner race which is much easier than trying to prise out the outer race after the inner has shattered 🙂

    Do you run any full sus frames?

    isn't FS for tarts who can't ride properly ???

    Premier Icon nickc
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    Bearings? Nope…I have a life…much betterer

    kaesae
    Member

    Same as any other frame with a headset crank or wheels etc. Make sure they rotate smoothly.

    As for damage from worn bearings. The worst is when the bearing binds or siezes and rotates in the housing and wares it away. Kona rockers are a perfect example of this.

    As for checking the bearings, the most basic check on the back end is to remove the rear shock and run the back end gently through it's travel.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tREkC3fVzXM

    To be honest though with the amount of leverage the rear end gives you, it's still hard to tell.

    kaesae
    Member

    Or blokes like me with gammy backs, full sus is for anyone wanting more performance at the cost of forward momentum

    foxyrider
    Member

    So where can we buy these high quality bearings, pre-greased and sealed from Kaesae?

    kaesae
    Member

    You need to hunt about and try different brands and see which ones you like. I only sell to people who I want to go biking, sorry!

    allthegear
    Member

    Bearings are easy – if the bike isn't right, the nice man at Nicolai makes it better…

    AGGGGGGGGG, MAKE IT STOP, PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I do not believe that full compliment bearings should be used, even though they are better at dealing with heavier loads over Chinese bearings.

    And that just makes no sense?
    Unless the chinese bearing is a type I've missed.

    Bearings, come from BETD, the local transmission/bearing shop, the original manufacturer depending on who's cheepest or been best in the past and whether they're a standard size or a manufacturers own.

    foxyrider
    Member

    What about the people who run FS bikes which haven't needed to change them at all yet? Orange Fives have bearings guaranteed for 5 years? Mine are still going strong ater 18 months?

    allthegear
    Member

    noooo – Chinese bearings are special and can take more load and, with the "special sauce" that kaesae fits, they are more waterproof than a nuclear submarine…

    Jamie
    Member

    Chinese bearings? This thread is just wong.

    dickydutch
    Member

    Got to admire his perseverance.

    kaesae
    Member

    Simple this isnotaspoon. most cheap bearing in this country are chinese or euopean or crap jap/taiwanese, I would rather run enduro max over those.

    However I would rather run top end bearings like FAG INA or SKF over Enduro max.

    Premier Icon schmiken
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    I use Ceramic Speed bearings.

    allthegear
    Member

    so what bike are you fitting these bearings to, kaesae?

    traildog
    Member

    isn't FS for tarts who can't ride properly ???

    I guess that's why he was surprised you ride a hardtail simon. 😆

    messiah
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    Grease… there are so many kinds. For years I used the finish line white teflon stuff but it seems to dry out and generally be a bit rubbish. I then had some lovely red stuff which I cannot remember what it was but it was super thick and stayed where I put it – although using it for Hope hubs was a mistake since the pawls would not move and it made the hub feel sticky.

    I've now got a tube of Weldtite which is red but I'm pretty underwhelemd with it other than it being the same colour as the good stuff I had – but fien for the hub application.

    So… one grease for bearings that rotate a lot like hubs… and another thicker one for headsets and pivots which do not rotate a lot… does that make sense?

    kaesae
    Member

    allthegear – Member
    so what bike are you fitting these bearings to, kaesae?

    several hundred so far throughout europe.

    Premier Icon piedi di formaggio
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    I only sell to people who I want to go biking, sorry!

    Ehh???? 😯

    Mighty strange sales patter there!

    sv
    Member

    ***WARNING – KATEC ADVERTISEMENT***

    Did this type of thread not get you banned on another forum!!!

    kaesae
    Member

    Messiah. I agree the right grease is vital. I think they stopped making that pink grease. I spoke to a guy in a shop a while back and he mentioned it, can't remember the name. Good budget grease for hubs is moly grease. Same stuff as rocknroll grease without the ouch factor in the price.

    allthegear
    Member

    Cool – that's quite a lot – did you say before that you had a bad back or something?

    kaesae
    Member

    SV purses at dawn

    kaesae
    Member

    sv – Member
    ***WARNING – KATEC ADVERTISEMENT***

    Did this type of thread not get you banned on another forum!!!

    No saying SteveL had a little kingdom to sell his sh1t on and lots of minions that munch butts got me banned.

    simonfbarnes
    Member

    I guess that's why he was surprised you ride a hardtail simon.

    ya got me 🙂 I'll admit bouncing around all over the place on hardtail gives me an excuse for being slow :o)

    I only sell to people who I want to go biking, sorry!

    I only buy bearings of people who don't really get on my wick, it's kinda the opposite of a sybyotic (sp?) relationship.

    kaesae
    Member

    MTBRIDER.COM

    Roll up Roll up, worship me or get banned!

    OOH SteveL you're so cool!
    OOH SteveL that thread about commencal bearings for a measly £69.99 is amazing.
    OOH SteveL you the second coming of Jesus Christ.

    Talk about creepy.

    kaesae
    Member

    thisisnotaspoon – Member
    AGGGGGGGGG, MAKE IT STOP, PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Boyfriend got a new toy sunshine?

    allthegear
    Member

    calm down, kaesae – you'll hurt yourself!!

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