Be honest… (Shimano brakes question)
Do Deore still come with the cheapo monkeymetal rotors that you’re not allowed to use sintered pads on in case they explode?
I had the old XT (M775), tried the equivalent SLX and found it identical apart from the excellent Enigmatic Adjuster on the XTs, which probably changed something but nobody could ever agree what it was. And tbh that was worth it. I always had it on minimum Something.Posted 4 years agojohnikgriffSubscriber
I’ve got the new SLX on my hard tail and the XT’s on my “proper” bike. Ice-tech rotors on both, 160&180 and 180 &200.
The bigger rotors will make a difference when I go away, other than that I think the SLX look better as the xt is a bit to shinny. XT look a bit more solid I guess
Other than that…….. Not a dot, SLX are fantastic and xt seem functionally exactly the same.
I’m just a marketing persons dream 🙂 go SLXPosted 4 years agomboySubscriber
The more you spend, the nicer the finish and the more adjustments you get. Power seems to be the same across the board though.
Just replaced last gen XT’s (M775) on my full sus with new M596 Deore’s. After one ride I’ve downsized the rotors from 203/180 to 180/160 cos they were too much!
Paid £37 each for the Deore’s from CRC without rotors or mounts, which I think is faintly ridiculous! Still I’m not complaining… Will probably put some Deore’s (again to replace last gen XT’s) on my hardtail sometime in the near future too, and again probably have to downsize the rotors! The only thing I don’t like about the Deore’s is they have a split pin that you have to bend with some pliers when you want to change pads, rather than the retaining screw that the SLX’s and above have. But for a tiny bit of faff once every few months, its hardly an issue.Posted 4 years agosmacaMember
I have XTs on 3 bikes, the price difference @ Rose was small enough I could afford the bling. XTR was too rich for my blood.
Test rode a bike with SLX, and as others have said, they felt nigh on identical.
The other reason was at the time I couldn’t get I-Spec in SLX.
IIRC, ISpec Compatibility in typical Shimano “Trickle down” style went something like:Posted 4 years ago
XTR 2011, XT 2012, SLX 2013, Deore 2014.lovewookieMember
2007 XTR’s on my main bike, cheap M575’s on my hack.
The XTR’s are nice, lots of feel and enough power for xc, the M575’s are heavier, only a bit, but they are. Have not as nice lever shape, are more powerful, but also don’t have a lot of feel so can feel a bit wooden.Posted 4 years agoStonerSubscriber
what the wookie says ^
I have M965 XTR (so yes, previous generation designs) but they have good power (not big anchors though) and excellent modulation.
I also have some sub deore ones on the luggage bike which are heavy and a bit wooden but dependable and powerful.
Finally I got some SLX for next to nothing from Rose bikes a while ago (something like £30 an end) and they are very good for the money. Nothing like the modulation of XTR, but very well built. and great stopping power.Posted 4 years agobellysMember
Deore are great brakes just replaced my Avid’s feel 100 times better leaver is short but loads of stopping power for a cheap brake set. http://www.merlincycles.com/bike-shop/mtb-parts/brakes/disc-brakes/shimano-disc-brakes/shimano-deore-m596-disc-brake-set-front-rear.html under £90.Posted 4 years agoAlexSubscriber
Switched from old m775 XT to new SLX on my HT and there was A LOT more power on the same rotos. XT on my FS and it’d be nice to have a bit more modulation. It’s like hitting a wall 😉 Have to run a 203 (only size forks supports) but really not expecting any issues in the alps with ice rotors.
Slightly off the point, does that servo wave screw do anything? I see to remember the outcome of the last debate being ‘no not really’
So in summary, SLX 🙂Posted 4 years agochriswilkMember
this year I have new SLX on one bike and new Deore 596 on the other.
Lever action and shape is the same, only difference I can see is the finish and hte need for an allen key for reach adjust on the deore, but this is surely a one time action.
Deore has the older style calliper with older style pad shape.
This may be a bit heavier, but not much.
Can’t say I notice any difference between the two on the trail, both in power and modulation. Both are superb.
check Merlin for deals also. Or the £10 off 70 at CRC through Quidco.Posted 4 years agomindmap3Member
I have XT 785’s on my main bike and 2013 Deores on my BFe….don’t honk there’s much difference in power (although the BFe does have smaller rotors). There seems to be less play in the blades on the XT brakes plus the other adjustments.
I’m happy with both but the Deores are an absolute bargain…even better now the 2014 versions will take the ice tech pads. It’s going to be hard to justify buying anything over Deore now because it looks good now, works well etc.
One of the bikes at I demo’d at the weekend hd SLX brakes and hey felt like my Shimano brakes to be honest.Posted 4 years ago
They dont say what the pistons are made from, Guessing as you go up the SLX/XT/XTR ladder you would expect maybe steel/stainless steel/phenolic.Posted 4 years ago
However their crappy tech support doesnt tell youtinybitsMember
I believe that xt has pad contact adjust over slx, but that’s it.Posted 4 years ago
I used the new xt’s with old standard xt rotors, however when I swapped to ice tech, it was genuinely better. I’ve never had brake fade and they bite like a bitey thing.
I believe the ice tech rotors work with any brake and any brake works with the ice techsmboySubscriber
Ice Tech rotors and finned pads are all about heat management (and reducing brake fade) rather than improving power. If you’re planning on lots of Alpine descending, they are probably worthwhile. For a few short runs of your local DH tracks, they won’t make any noticable difference at all.Posted 4 years agorichmtbSubscriber
I have three bikes now with Shimano brakes
M810 Saints on my main full-sus – simply brilliant brakes but a bit spendy
’12 XT’s on my XC bike if anything they are even better than the Saints, 90% of the power of the Saints less weight and about half the cost
’13 Deores on the commuter – how much!!! A brilliant brake for less than £50 an end – other than a bit a weight and a bit of adjustment they are no different to the XT’sPosted 4 years ago
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