Banned from cycling to work
So, a mate of mine plays as a pro footballer in the championship. To increase his day of training he has been regularly cycling to the training ground (approx 36 miles round trip). However, in reaction to the recent accidents with cyclists making the headlines he has been banned by the club from effectively cycling to work. Is this one step too far in an employer trying to protect their workforce ?Posted 4 years agomogrimMember
Quite surprised he needs to increase his training – surely that should be covered by what he does with the club?
Still, I can see their point – if I fall off my bike and twist my ankle it’s a pain but I can still work, your mate would be off work for 6 weeks right in the middle of the championship.Posted 4 years agodeviantMember
They pay him to perform physically.
If he comes off the bike and injures himself he is out of action and they are wasting money on a player who cant play, this kind of thing is quite normal in sports contracts.
Back in the 90s didnt the singer Seal have a ‘no motorbikes’ clause written into his contract by his record label?
If he wants to do some extra training there is plenty else he could be doing in a more controlled environment….or he could test the waters and see if its cycling in general they dont want him doing or road cycling in particular…if its road cycling then he can still go mountain biking could he not?
I should imagine he’s on reasonable money, even Championship footballers get decent wages these days, i wouldnt rock the boat…his playing career will be short enough anyway without any additonal injuries from being knocked off his bike….if he becomes a trouble maker they’ll sell him, how much does he like his job?!Posted 4 years agoscaredypantsSubscriber
You can sort of see the pointPosted 4 years ago
lots of pro sportyfolk are prevented from skiing n’shit – I’d guess they’re more worried about him picking up minor injuries than being squashed (if that happened, I suppose they’d just strike him off the accounts and buy a new player; if he’s injured they have to keep paying him and for his rehab etc). I bet they’d flip if he said he was going going out mtbing insteadmogrimMember
Apparently banned from cycling into training but can do as he pleases in his own time. Ludicrous
Could be an insurance thing then, not sure about legislation in the UK but here in Spain your journey to/from work is considered part of your working day and is covered by labour law.Posted 4 years agoatlazMembermogrim wrote:
Could be an insurance thing then, not sure about legislation in the UK but here in Spain your journey to/from work is considered part of your working day and is covered by labour law.
Same here (Luxembourg). Crash your car on an icy road on the way to work, slip at the train station etc and you’re hurt and it’s somehow down to the company and is reported as such. The flip side of that is the government pays us 90% of the salary back for sick days so it’s swings and roundabouts. The argument our HR gave me was that you’re only traveling at that time and location because you are coming to work.Posted 4 years agoboriselbrusSubscriber
Ksi = killed or seriously injured
In the uk there is no liability on employers however they travel to work. Even if they are hurt on the road whilst driving for their employer it’s still not reportable to the hse.
I suspect this is about not turning up for training tired from an hour on the bike and not being able to do the training session effectively.
Seems reasonable to me.Posted 4 years agoti_pin_manMember
I would understand this if it was in central london as thats where the high profile accidents have been, anywhere else seems a little pedantic.
If it was me I would make sure the coach is aware of the additional effort and clear it with him, thats just common sense where a job is based on his physical perfomance BUT as soon as I type these words I think, there must be quite a few ‘ordinary jobs’ where the work is physical and the outside of work additional effort might impact the day to day work… so… I think it becomes the responsibility of the employee to make sure they can do their job be it a pro footballer or manual laborer. employers cant dictate what you do outside of work but the employee needs to take some responsibility for his actions.Posted 4 years agoSaxonRiderSubscriber
My cousin was an Olympian speedskater who, like most speedskaters, cycled through the summer for training purposes. He was contractually bound by his sponsors to avoid mountain biking, though, and he wasn’t allowed to downhill ski in the winter.
Not cycling to work when you play for a professional football club seems consistent.Posted 4 years agowreckerMember
A pro rugby player friend asked if he could come and try MTBing out with me a while ago. I had to turn him down. If his club found out that he’d injured himself whilst MTBing, he’d be sacked. He didn’t make that connection for himself. Too many blunt force traumas I reckon!Posted 4 years agomrmonkfingerMember
The odds of death are quite a lot lower than serious injury (about 1/30th IIRC).
But, even doing a cumulative probability wotsit, after 8k miles, its approx 0.8%. Tiny bit less, but close enough.
Whatever a KSI is, at those stats it’s more like 0.008% chance.
care to share how you got 0.008%?Posted 4 years ago
Though my gut reaction is that an hour of cycling is statistically less likely to produce an injury than an hour of football training.
True, but in 8,000 miles of cycling the chances of a slip or minor off that results in enough of an injury to slow him down a little is pretty highPosted 4 years agotraildogMember
Cycling is still statistically safer than diving (outside London). So if it’s a danger thing then I am sure he can argue it if he wants. I’d fight it, but then I’m not a pro footballer.Posted 4 years ago
As for the training, they don’t do huge amounts, you will probably be surprised how much they do.
There was interview in the local paper with a player who was one of the kids is the same youth team Beckham, Scholes, Giggs, etc. He said that they all did extra sessions. IIRC Beckham did an extra session with the kids in the age group above and a couple hours working on dead balls as well as their standard training every day. The chap being interviewed did not, he just did the basic.Posted 4 years agosamuriMember
statistically less likely to produce an injury than an hour of football training.
Those aren’t real injuries, they’re pretending see? That’s a valid part of being a footballer.
The original thing is just absolute nonsense though. he’s far more likely to injure himself driving to work (especially since he’s a footballer) , walking down the stairs or having a shower. Pathetic. They’ve not even thought about it.Posted 4 years ago
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