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  • Are we the only 'species' that has sex for pleasure?
  • Premier Icon lyons
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    I know it might sound like a wierd question, but i'm currently reading a book called 'the naked Ape', which is about humans as a species and how we evolved. Anyway, the author keeps on going on about how the fact we shag for fun, not just for breeding, and that he thinks it is one of the major reasons we have been so succesful as a species.

    It got me thinkng, are we the only ones?

    Premier Icon mrmichaelwright
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    i believe the Benobo (sp) masturbates and also engages in lesbian sex

    Premier Icon tinribz
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    WTF, why do you think animals do it then πŸ™„

    Good book though.

    Premier Icon lyons
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    I'm not saying it is my opinion… thats why i asked the question…

    Premier Icon tails
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    Don't no ask your wife ahahahahahahahahahahahaha that was good weren't it ahahaha πŸ™„ tumbleweed for one

    Premier Icon mrmichaelwright
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    apparently female bonobos also suffer from 'headaches' and discuss ham fisted attempts at foreplay over bottles of rosΓ©

    Premier Icon retro83
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    lol

    apparently some types of dolphins give blowies with their blowholes?

    edit: linky http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/K/kamasutra/wild_t.html

    Premier Icon Junkyard
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    Iirc our females are also one of the only ones with concealed ovulation. this may mean we have to do it more to guarante we procreate. If it is fun we are more likely to do it.

    Given how often a dog humps yer leg it must enjoy it and a mate used to have a dog that engaged in ononism – bet that one beats the swear filter.

    Premier Icon lyons
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    the book goes into a lot more detail, and puts forward quite a strong argument… Its saying that for our society to work, we need to stay as couples, and for that, we need sex, which produces kids, which is another incentive to stay together. And loads more confusing but interesting points…

    Premier Icon porterclough
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    Bonobos are mad for it. They are also pacifist vegetarians unlike their violent meat eating chimpanzee cousins.

    Premier Icon mrmichaelwright
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    isn't it more the female pleasure in which the distinction lies?

    Premier Icon sharki
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    Yeah defo the chimps.

    There is a breed of bird that although a paired male remains loyal the female will sneak off and have it with a single male if ones sniffing around her….

    Not sure what it is though.

    Premier Icon tinribz
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    It was kinda odd that the whole purpose of the book was really to lift the veil on the fact we 'behave' no different to animals, but on this point he believes we are unique.

    Probably just a higher mammal thing: http://www.sexwork.com/family/dolphins1.html

    Premier Icon samuri
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    nice link to a virus infected site.

    Premier Icon Scottlacey
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    If you saw the size of my misses you wouldn't say it was for pleasure

    Only joking love in case you read this, just my humor πŸ˜‰

    Premier Icon hora
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    I watched a BBC documentary what I will faintly describe as 'educational', it was rampant chimp-porn. Not sure of the type but sisters were shagging dads, mums sons, cousins etc- infront of the camera like mechanical pistons. I didnt know whether to laugh or 😯

    Premier Icon snowslave
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    our rabbits do lesbian incest

    Premier Icon darrell
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    ducks

    Premier Icon swamp_boy
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    ducks do seem to have a good time, at least the males do, sometimes the females look as if they're going to drown

    IIRC badgers and quite few related mammals are at it all the time, in some cases mating brings on ovulation, but the fertilised egg doesn't implant and start developing for some time. From that I'd guess they enjoy it.

    Premier Icon BigDummy
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    Is not the distinction more subtle than we shag for fun, not just for breeding?

    Many (most?) mammals enjoy sex and probably do it "for fun" or at least because they know they like it. Humans have separated sex almost entirely from breeding, so that most of the time human sex is not merely "not for breeding" but is done in such a way that the chances of breeding are largely eliminated.

    Mark Rowlands makes some interesting observations in The Philosopher and the Wolf about this. He reckons that, compared to most animals, humans are addicted to sex, and that this is one of the root causes of human ghastliness.

    Premier Icon pimpmyride
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    ??

    Premier Icon RealMan
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    I've heard its just us and dolphins.

    Most other animals only do it when they are at their most fertile, or during breeding season (if they're not the same..)

    Premier Icon donald
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    Lion mating is notoriously quick, repetitive, and unsuccessful. The male usually initiates copulation with a mating snarl which is …(train rushes into tunnel, waves crash on beach etc.). The male will then move away from the female as the female rolls on her back and stretches her legs. The mating activity generally lasts for about four days. Copulation lasts about 30-70 seconds and is repeated once every 25 minutes during the four day period.

    Lions, however, are very unsuccessful at conception. Bertram observed that intromission and ejaculation occurred 90% of the time, but the mating was still unsuccessful.

    http://www.bio.davidson.edu/people/vecase/Behavior/Spring2004/shelburne/mating.html

    Premier Icon IanMunro
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    Sheep do it for fun.
    Well, I think they enjoy it.

    Premier Icon RealMan
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    Also, a pigs orgasm lasts 30 minutes.

    Premier Icon D0NK
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    I've read dolphins enjoy it and the odd rogue "flipper" has tried to forcibly shag their trainers too.

    Premier Icon SirJonLordofBike1
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    I've heard people say dolphins are the only other wouldnt surprise me randy b@@@'ds.. and they're always smiling.

    Anyway since animals dont communicate with speach its difficult to ascertain whether their motive is fun or instinctual urges to procreate. Now if the dolphin was to put a rubber on knowing that it would prevent pregnancy then maybe, or maybe not.

    Premier Icon CountZero
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    Bonobo females will initiate sex with rowdy younger males to quiet them down, and there are plenty of other examples of recreational sex among the family groups that goes way beyond that needed for procreation, including homosexual. Bonobo's go at it like the battery bunny, given half a chance. 😯

    Premier Icon MoreCashThanDash
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    MrsSwadey may well argue that there are no species that do it for fun….

    Premier Icon neverfastenuff
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    I dont think its a pleasure for my Mrs, you ought to hear her moan, sometimes almost howling, puts me right off.. 😯

    Premier Icon ernie_lynch
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    Also, a pigs orgasm lasts 30 minutes.

    Yeah, I've noticed that too.

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    Although TBH…….I've always presumed that the fact you need to get rat-arsed before you can bring yourself to take them home, probably contributes to their prolonged sexual pleasure πŸ’‘

    Premier Icon Drac
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    Anyway since animals dont communicate with speach

    Strong evidence now that apes use some sort of verbal communication even between different breeds.

    Premier Icon SirJonLordofBike1
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    I do remember scientists analysed what dogs are "saying", it apparrently came down to a two things " Come here come here come here" or " go away go away go away".

    Premier Icon deadlydarcy
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    hora, that documentary you were watching was that fly-on-the-wall thing you and your extended family signed up for. Do you not remember? Did you really get that used to the cameras being around?

    Premier Icon Flaperon
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    I've seen a horse masturbate. You'll have to provide your own mental picture. I've blocked mine out.

    Premier Icon DrDolittle
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    Did you know that groupings of young male dolphins regularly chase a female until exhaustion and then rape their quarry? It's true.

    They also rape middle aged mid-life crises sufferers. Go look on the internet for facts.

    Premier Icon NZCol
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    I got chased across a paddock by a randy horse swinging the most enormous donger at me – i then had to get over a fence with my bike and the fxkn thing almost got me. Photos were taken during the chase and I will never live it down …

    Premier Icon BigJohn
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    As we are the only species with understanding of our consequences, we are probably the only species that has sex deliberately for reproduction.

    All the rest just do it for fun. (or instinct)

    Premier Icon coffeeking
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    As we are the only species with understanding of our consequences

    Depends how far you wish to push that, there's a lot of species who understand that if they do something something else will happen. Though we might be the only ones able to see that what happens might not be good for the community as a whole.

    Did you know that groupings of young male dolphins regularly chase a female until exhaustion and then rape their quarry?

    Yup, I have it on good (non-internet, marine biologist) authority that this is true.

    I also have it on good (the same) authority that some experiments performed to see how crabs learned found that 2 crabs in a tank started off fighting each other for food, but then realised that they got fed more often by the researchers if they took the food, chopped it in two and shared it. Not that thats related to sex.

    Anyway since animals dont communicate with speach

    Define speech? Assuming you just mean a set of noises with a fixed meaning (repeatable noises that mean the same thing, rather than a human language like English) then that's a pile of tosh.

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