- Are 29ers really dead
Who’s we? I’d still expect them to be fairly niche in this country, I’d guess your average joe looking for their first ‘proper’ MTB is typically on a sub £700 budget and their idea of an MTB will be 26″. People looking for 29ers I’d guess are experienced MTBers wanting a change so wouldn’t be enough to drive the volume sales. As soon as more manufacturers drop 26″ and offer only 650b or 29″ then the average joe volume will obviously follow.Posted 4 years agowobbliscottMember
The uk market is a small proportion of the world market. I’d like to know what are worldwide sales like. The big us companies seem to be committing to larger wheels so there must be demand. Even some of the biker run niche and well respected brands are, so there are real bikers out there that see benefits in larger wheels. we in the uk are hardly known for being at the forefront of much and tend to follow the curve (we love nostalgia so much so we just down want to let go!), so I’m not surprised that 26ers still dominate new bike sales in the UK even if larger wheel sizes are taking off elsewhere in the world.
Who says we have to have a one size fits all anyway?Posted 4 years agoRVMember
Generally high end MTB’s are slow to clear these days, 26 or 29er’s. Just bread and butter bikes being sold no more than a grand.Posted 4 years ago
Now road bikes are a different story, lots of high end off the shelf and custom builds being sold each month form £3k to £8k, though still a slow year really, not helped by a poor start to the year with weather. Road bike sales have increased considerably over the last few years.
I was shopping for an “entry level quality bike” the other day for a friend, and tbh I’d not really thought about that end of the market recently… And it turns out, if you’re buying a first bike, you’re almost certainly buying a 26er, or a stinker.
29ers are still rare, and the ones that are out there are horribly specced. Suntour XCMs on a £750 bike, ffs! I’d spotted the Genesis Mantles at Glentress and assumed it was about a £450 bike. The only one that I could recommend was the Voodoo- now discontinued. There’s a Cannondale that looks OK til you notice it’s a singlespeed.
But don’t get me started on 650b, I can’t find a single 650b bike under a grand with a quick google.Posted 4 years agoSinglespeed_ShepMember
Lets see what the current picture is..
Front page poll.. What size wheels do you have on your main MTB?
I think its a good representation. It would be good to compare with “How long do you keep a bike for?”
If the average person keeps a bike for 4-5 years then that how long it will take for 29/650 to become the dominate wheel size if it happens.
I personally feel 29″ has established itself in the global market and is unlikely to dwindle. 26″ and 650b are likely to shuffle for the next couple of years. It’ll be interested to see how it pans out.
The economic climate is playing more of a part in determining what bikes people buy than new technology and is likely to for years to come.Posted 4 years agojonxmackMember
I got into mountain biking properly about 12 months ago when my dad started riding again after a 10+ year hiatus, I built up an alright specced 26 which has done me well, but after racing mayhem the other weekend where it seemed all the fast guys were cruising past me on 29ers (okay I was on a fully rigid retro Orange from about ’93) it made me wanna build one up.
So I dropped £1500 on the credit card and have parts arriving daily for a custom On One Lurcher build. Was supposed to be starting SS with geared a possibility in the future but due to lack of availability on the horizontal swapouts I splashed some cash on a shifter and a mech and will be riding a 1×10 setup. Really cant wait to see how it rides.
I do think that 650 will start becoming more prevalent in the not too distant future for “serious” riders but I’m still convinced that the way to go for XC is 29, with 650 being better for (almost) everything else.Posted 4 years agostilltortoiseSubscriber
What size wheels do you have on your main MTB?
How does this help? It’s a genuine question. Say you learn that 80% of the STW lot have 26″ wheels on their main bike. What conclusion can you draw from that about the future of 29ers? How is the picture different if 80% are on 29″ wheels? We’ve already established from this industry wheel war that us punters don’t appear to have much control of what the bike manufacturers want to sell us.Posted 4 years agocookeaaSubscriber
I’ve got a theory, there’s actually only ever been one wheel size for MTBs but we’ve all fallen victim to an group case of “Farther McGuire’s perspective disorder”…
we love nostalgia so much so we just down want to let go!
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDstN8nWtJE[/video]Posted 4 years ago
Trust me I know my thing in the market thus being that we in the know are more than certain its going the way we did not want it to!!
Possibly a small town local market………
Going the way you didn’t want it to – more bikes being sold to a wider range of people with new niches to keep people buying? What person in bikes wouldn’t want a nice diverse market with more to appeal to more people?Posted 4 years agob45herMember
29″ bikes will stay around for the xc and beginner markets, i think it’s the push to try and get them accepted for more aggressive riding that has fallen flat.
out of interest the bikes bought by riding buddys over the last few months have been
intense carbine 26
specialized camber 29
ibis mojo 26
canyon strive x2 26
canyon nerve AL+ 26
zestys x3 (714,414 and 314) all 26
yeti asr 5 26
orange 5 26
specialized stumpy evo’s x2 26
29ers are a rare breed in my part of the world 😆Posted 4 years ago
It’s a tool for selling existing customers more bikes, not for broadening the market.
I know that – but things can work more than one way you know – and different people like different things. More diversity = goodness. Or do you believe there should be one type of bike that we all must ride, regardless of height, style, terrain etc?Posted 4 years ago
Of course not, but I don’t believe anyone has ever thought “Oh, I always wanted a mountain bike but those 26 inch wheels are too small to roll easily over rocks. But wait, what’s this? 3 inches bigger? I shall now buy a bike!” Beginners don’t know or care what size bike wheels are.Posted 4 years agowobbliscottMember
This really is nothing new. You looks at virtually any other sport with kit and developments that have not been demanded from the market have all transformed the respective sports. I’m not saying 29ers will transform biking, far from it, but the concept that all developments have to be demanded from the market is wrong. Often the market had no idea. 29ers are an evolution that may only provide benefits in some areas of the sport. The idea that all MTB’s should have the same sized wheels no matter what your doing with them is just daft. Just the same as saying all suspension bikes should be 120mm, no longer, no shorter.Posted 4 years ago
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