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  • Anyone seen the footage of the second "Boston suspect" being captured?
  • Premier Icon wrightyson
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    How many rounds did they fire at him? How he “survived” is anyone’s guess. The Americans really are shit at stuff like this!

    Premier Icon enfht
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    CEASE FIRE!

    CEASE FIRE!!

    I SAID CEASE FIRE!!!

    Premier Icon bwaarp
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    Lot’s of coppers with guns who have probably never dealt with a potential suicide bomber = lots of nervous blokes who probably want to get back to their wives and not die a fiery nail ridden death.

    They did a better job of this manhunt than the LAPD did. Those two waved the right to be treated with minimal force by the police as soon as they gunned one of them down – a coppers life was not worth either of theirs.

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    The Americans really are shit at stuff like this!

    Whereas of course, the British authorities has a fantastic reputation when dealing with terrorist suspects.

    Jean Charles de Menezes

    Premier Icon bwaarp
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    Jon +1

    Bloody Sunday anyone?

    Premier Icon zippykona
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    To be fair in the De Menezes case there was a case of mistaken identity.
    They were after his troublesome little brother Dennis.

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    Premier Icon ernie_lynch
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    Bloody Sunday wasn’t a police operation.

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    jon1973 – Member
    The Americans really are shit at stuff like this!
    Whereas of course, the British authorities has a fantastic reputation when dealing with terrorist suspects.
    Jean Charles de Menezes

    And don’t walk through Glasgow with a table leg if you don’t feel like being ventilated…

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    But to be fair the Yanks don’t tend to (technically… you could argue considering how much of the ATF and SWAT heavies are ex forces…that they do) use soldiers for policing their own country.

    What you are saying is effectively an even worse indictment of bloody sunday Ernie. How is it any better than Waco when a bunch of Para’s go berserk in NI? Please enlighten me, that protest should have never been controlled with squaddies in the first place.

    Remember the innocent guys in that car back in the 80’s..I think…that MET officers effectively tried to murder with their revolvers?

    Premier Icon ernie_lynch
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    How is it any better than Waco when a bunch of Para’s go berserk in NI? Please enlighten me.

    Who said it was ?

    Premier Icon bwaarp
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    So why bring up that point? They weren’t policemen but that was besides the point, they were called in to police that protest.

    Premier Icon kcr
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    And don’t walk through Glasgow with a table leg if you don’t feel like being ventilated…

    London
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Harry_Stanley

    Premier Icon ernie_lynch
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    So why bring up that point?

    It was you who brought up Bloody Sunday, not me.

    And yes, it was pointless – it wasn’t a comparable situation.

    Premier Icon bwaarp
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    Well last time I checked the yanks deal with greater levels of violence between gangs on a day to day basis in LA than we ever saw even at the height of the troubles….and they do that without sending in Green Berets and laying waste to neighborhoods.

    I’m pretty sure they even did a better job keeping the unneeded civvie deaths down during the 1992 LA riots as well.

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    He is 19 and not a born killer, his religion was the killer not the boy.

    Premier Icon jon1973
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    Which religion would that be then? Is there any evidence yet that this was motivated by religion?

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    He is 19 and not a born killer, his religion was the killer not the boy.

    People choose their religion and humans have their own consciences regardless of what they are told is ‘right’. That said, no one said it was a religion related incident. He’s a Chechen isn’t he (not sure if there are any linked political issues there, it’s possible).

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    Not very good at what?

    They shoot to maim terrorists not to kill them, they will only kill them if they opposing an immediate threat. A dead terrorist can’t share any infomation.

    Premier Icon pingu66
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    He is 19 and not a born killer, his religion was the killer not the boy.

    FFS so these terrorists that kill in the name of a religion it is their God that is the killer not the retard blowing stuff up. In this case there are no links “currently” to any religious motivations.

    Probably the most pathetic statement I have ever read.

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    They shoot to maim terrorists not to kill them,

    The police including the yanks never ever shoot to maim. Ever. They shoot to kill and if you somehow survive then it’s merely good fortune because the cops thought they had killed you to death.

    In every major limb there is an artery, which is pretty damn easy to hit with a 5.56 or 7.62 caliber weapon….who’s rupture is going to cause you to bleed out very very quickly.

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    FFS the police including the yanks never ever shoot to maim. Ever.

    Erm… Yes 🙄

    No wonder you fail basic exams with logic like that.

    Premier Icon bwaarp
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    Afraid it’s you who probably fail basic exams Zokes, I never have…I just win at them slightly less. Hence giant ego.

    http://www.pfoa.co.uk/110/shooting-to-wound

    Good way to make an idiot of yourself though. Awww diddums.

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    Also Zokes, It makes me happy that you like to follow me into threads and comment on whatever I’ve said because it means my baiting has worked. It makes you a bigger idiot than I am…I recognize I’m an idiot… you don’t.

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    EDIT:

    Gah, CBA. Grow up.

    Premier Icon bwaarp
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    It would seem you should try looking in a mirror.

    Premier Icon Drac
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    The police including the yanks never ever shoot to maim. Ever. They shoot to kill and if you somehow survive then it’s merely good fortune because the cops thought they had killed you to death.

    Wrong I’m afraid.

    Premier Icon thegreatape
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    Shoot to stop, is it not?

    (I’m a poet, but don’t know it).

    Premier Icon bwaarp
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    Well to put it more subtly, they should so as to cause an immediate end to the threat. Which usually means incapacitating them so they are beyond the ability to use a gun or detonate explosives. Whether you end up living through that ordeal is secondary.

    This means shooting in the torso/cns and incapacitating someone to the point that they can’t use a weapon or detonate a bomb which usually means you have a very high chance of dying.

    So no, I’m not wrong. The police shoot you with the knowledge they are probably going to kill you, they are not trained to discharge a firearm with intent to wound/maim. As this could result in the needless use of force or unacceptable risks to the policemen involved.

    The only people who shoot to maim/wound… funnily enough… are soldiers. If you can work out why (squaddies not included) you get 10 internet points.

    Premier Icon thegreatape
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    Presumably because injured soldiers divert more of your enemy’s resources away from fighting you than dead ones do?

    Premier Icon bwaarp
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    You win 10 internetz points…. 😛 huzzah and all that

    Premier Icon thegreatape
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    Rock’n’roll 🙂

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    It would seem you should try looking in a mirror.

    I did. I can’t see a whiney, self important, failure of a student in it though.

    On a serious note. With an attitude like yours you’ll really struggle to get anywhere in life. You really do need to get over your self impotence (sic.) issues for your own good.

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    did. I can’t see a whiney, self important, failure of a student in it though.

    On a serious note. With an attitude like yours you’ll really struggle to get anywhere in life. You really do need to get over your self impotence (sic.) issues for your own good.

    Hey, I’m not following people round on threads. Oh the irony of being accused of having impotence issues.

    Really, you’re entertaining me zokes. For an apparently highly educated individual I’m rather quite surprised by your inability to keep yourself from stooping to my level, I can see your PHD education really paid for itself..

    The sad thing about you is that I can accept when I’m wrong on a topic and then I’ll go quiet and leave or accept that I’m wrong…. you can’t handle it and resort to continually harassing people, who’s the one with issues Zokes?

    I just post on here for lolz because I can’t concentrate on one thing for more than 20 minutes, I have to take little 5 minute breaks between reading textbooks.

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    I have to take little 5 minute breaks between reading textbook

    Still on text books? Bless….

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    You need textbooks when swapping over to a different field of study, I’ve got Oxford PHD chemists borrowing some of my old cell textbooks at the moment 😉

    Funny man.

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    Funny man.

    Glad you think so 🙂

    Can’t remember the last time I read a text book. I tend to find they’ve generally been proven to be out of date by the time they’re published. They do look pretty good on my office shelves though…

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    Can’t remember the last time I read a text book. I tend to find they’ve generally been proven to be out of date by the time they’re published. They do look pretty good on my office shelves though…

    Only if you study something as low as chemistry or biology. In the one and only proper subject that is maths, books like Kendals Advanced Theories on Statistics tend to stick around for a little while longer without being revised. 😉

    Also some of us like trying a few different subjects, you don’t read textbooks because nothing outside of your original undergraduate degree interests you. You don’t have the capacity or interest to go multidisciplinary :mrgreen:

    I have a textbook on Russian history and also one on how corruption effects economies, do you?

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    Also some of us like trying a few different subjects, you don’t read textbooks because nothing outside of your original undergraduate degree interests you. You don’t have the capacity or interest to go multidisciplinary

    It’s OK. When you grow up you’ll get to specialise.

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