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  • IHN
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    Something I’m in the early stages of considering starting to think about. I have a degree, I think I’d need to do a subject qualification wotsit (I’m thinking Physics) plus a PGCE or on the job training (forgotten the proper title). It seems that bursaries are available, although I’d probably have to sell the house and rent.

    Anyone have any experiences of doing similar?

    sofatester
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    Those who can’t, teach.

    IHN
    Member

    Cheers, c0ckend. Haven’t you got a sand pit to play in?

    Premier Icon dogtiredandwired
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    I’ve thought about it.

    To respond to sofatester, I have been there, and done that (successfully!), and am looking for a second career, new challenge and the opportunity to feel that I am contributing to society.

    Same concerns though, it would mean a massive drop in earnings.

    Hodge-Podge
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    sofatester – Member

    Those who can’t, teach.

    Clichéd bolx ;-). Those who can teach, create those who can.

    (And no, I’m not a teacher!)

    RudeBoy
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    I’m doing some part-time teaching atm; I want to gain a pro qualification if I can, but it appears I don’t actually need one! I already have a BA. I only intend to work with Adults, so I don’t need a PGCE. Thought I needed something else, but I’m not sure, now. Any thoughts on that? Would I need to go on to an MA, to do anything above FE level?

    Those who can’t, teach.

    Bollocks. Those who can, and feel they want to help others learn, teach.

    I love it, me. Really fulfilling, and fun! Saw one of my last-term’s students last night, and she was showing me stuff she’d done, using techniques she learned on my course. Was a really lovely moment for me. Felt I’d done something worthwhile.

    sofatester
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    Reel them in…

    willyboy
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    I did. Taught for 2 years and then thought surely there is more to life than this.
    Don’t get me wrong i enjoyed some of the classes (years 7 and 11 and my sixth form group) but years 8 to 10 little nightmares.
    I taught at a school with a good record but just decided it wasn’t for me.

    IHN
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    willyboy – out of interest, what was it that made you decide to teach in the first place?

    willyboy
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    It was a fairly easy choice in that they paid my student loans off (whilst i was teaching) and that it was the most interesting option available to me after i had finished my degree. I taught DT by the way.
    Don’t get me wrong i have friends who love teaching, but i just fell out of love with it over time.

    Hijack . . .

    Willyboy, . . . it’s you isn’t it Will?

    Love

    Keith

    willyboy
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    It is Keith. How are you? Looking forward to the alps i’m guessing.
    love
    Will
    xxx

    IHN
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    Fair enough. It’s something I’ve always wanted to do.

    more hijack

    Will mail me

    keith72(at)fastmail(dot)co(dot)uk

    and how do you know about the alps?

    Has Neil or Mike been blabbin?

    Lata lover!

    Premier Icon Trekster
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    daughter is doing her pgce atm. on her second placement. her first placement was in one of the worst city areas and her current placement is where all the posh(would be)people gravitate to. Guess which school she has gotten most satisfaction from?? She has gone straight from uni MA into this because she wanted to.

    Don

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    s just a passing phase/I need a job etc. Do it because you want to. There is a lot of prep work/lesson plans etc to do. Some of her course mates are struggling with this part(re-cycling hers!!)

    At the end of the day money is`nt all that important if all you are doing is earning, not spending or just plain misserable. Maybe buys you a few toys to impress the mates/neighours/family but what do they really think?? Doing something you enjoy for less may be more rewarding. Having watched a recently promoted colleague wander up the hill, 2hrs after his finishing time, from the main office block with his knuckles trailing the ground I just think to myself WHY???

    I am sure many people will now be reassesing their priorities in life due to the “crunch”…it had to happen, culd not carry on imo.

    Do some homework re colleges/providers in your area, potential employers(short/fixed term contracts at first?) Agencies etc.

    Watch teachers TV and read all paper/magazine supplements.

    IHN
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    Chr1st you two, get a room 🙂

    The money side isn’t really an issue. I’d take a hit at first, especially when I was training, but now that teachers are actually paid a reasonable professional salary I don’t think it’s be that long before I was earning pretty much what I earn now. Anyway, one cuts ones cloth accordingly.

    marcus
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    IHN – if it all goes pear shaped,(see binners’ doom thread), its something i’ll seriously consider, so I,m interested in what you find out.

    IHN
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    Shall we teach maths? 🙂

    duckman
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    I did it. I served my apprenticeship with my Dad’s business on the understanding that if I did he would pay for my education. I did my degree and then just kept on plastering.About 6 years ago when my first child arrived I decided I wanted to stop travelling.I did my pgce and love teaching. It is NOT for everybody and the money isn’t as good as I used to make. However it is very rewarding, the banter is usually good and the holidays are A1. Another point is that I am credit crunch safe.With regards to you choice of course, Physics, Chemistry and Maths..where would Sir LIKE to work?

    Junkyard
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    Has anyone on here heard of Google it is this fantastic thing that if you type in words it gives you answers… some say it is better than asking relative strangers who dont do the job…
    try typing this in
    how to become a teacher

    click on the first link I suspect the govt and the TDA may know a little about this!
    here i saved you th trouble

    i am to lazy to use google to get relebvant information I ask MTB there is nothing they done know

    mrsflash
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    Junkyard I think you’ll find he was asking for peoples experiences and not how to do it.

    marcus
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    IHN – To be fair we couldn’t be worse that Miss ‘hippo’ Smith.

    willyboy
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    JUNKYARD – read the post you twit. 🙄

    IHN
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    Duckman – what do you teach?

    MrsF/willyboy – thankyou

    Junkyard – perhaps nightschool to polish up on your basic literacy?

    Junkyard
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    true but he also does not know about entry requirements or bursaries so they will get the info from there
    do find it odd that people ask questions on here that Google will answer never really understod why suppose I will answer the expereince which was i got the information from Google and did my training 😆

    There is a bursary and a variety of ways to enter teacher training.
    You can do the FT STUDENT route providing a bursary (check website but £6000K when i did it and golden Hellos for shortage subjects again no up to date knowledge – you can also train in a school called GTP – which will give you more moneysorry being more helpful now after rant!!!
    In terms of teaching you can either handle the classroom and the work or you cannot I dont teach much anymore so there is your answer from me.
    Teaching adults (FE community) is generally easier but hours are more erratic and wages lower. Ignor poster above you do require a teaching qualification but in shortage subjects (generally vocational ones) they will let you train on the job. Dont be fooled by the long holidays notion as there is more planning than you can imagine (in beginning you will plan as much as you teach … though once you have done it if the syllabus does not change(it will) then you are laughing.
    You can either do it or not I found the school rules hard and always sided with those who were fighting the system .. that and I spent most of my time trying to get poeple to behave (which I am sure some will say means I was rubbish and they may have apoint) rather than educate them.
    Hopefully more helpful this time(but probably better to post this during half term

    duckman
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    I teach History at Carnoustie High up here in benighted Angus! We are in a brand new building, I get to cycle (most) of the way home along the coast, and I get paid to teach a subject which is also one of my hobbies,oh and take my silver Duke of Embra’ group out on bikes…which is nice.

    IHN
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    Junkyard – thanks. Although I pray you didn’t teach English (and, for what it’s worth, I can use Google and I am aware of the entry requirements and the bursaries).

    Premier Icon geoffj
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    I reckon being a primary school teacher would be pretty cool.

    AB
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    Househusband, off of here, has recently retrained as a teacher.

    robbo
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    I did and I love it. I teach Maths and its a different experience every day. The routine can get a bit tiring after a while (you know what you are doing in 6 months time) but the kids change all the time.

    Just started mentoring new PGCE students and its fascinating watching them screw up just as badly as I did while training. My tip – if you are not organised then don’t bother – its hard to learn to be organised and you have to be to survive. Oh and GTP (while tempting money wise) is terrifying!

    headfirst
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    IHN, physics teachers are a dying breed so in one way that’s a good thing for you: a nice bursary and all that, but long term the reason they are dying out is lack of demand for them: less and less kids are taking physics as a GCSE, instead opting for combined science courses, and A level numbers are getting poorer and poorer – the kiddies see it as just too hard! If you don’t mind teaching all the sciences you should be fine though, but you might have to hunt around for a job where you teach mainly physics. I say all of this as an Economics & Business Studies teacher by the way! The same thing has been happening with Economics – I’ve recently moved to a grammar school so I can get my fix of ‘proper’ Economics teaching. Have a look on the TES website around about Easter time to gauge the job market, it’ll be quiet right now.

    Without wanting to sound all ‘high-horsey’, teaching is not something to be entered into lightly: the training and the first few years are damned hard work! Expect to have no life during term time. Best of luck!

    IHN
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    robbo – GTP?

    headfirst – really? I thought they were crying out for Physics teachers. I’m not sure I could teach the other sciences (didn’t even do them to GCSE). I might be able to teach Geography as well I suppose.

    headfirst
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    IHN, That is mainly from anecdotal evidence – ie. chat with physics teachers at my current (started in Sept) and last school (was there for 14 years). But I’m pretty damn sure that the number of students taking AS/A2 physics is low and only heading in one direction. ‘Safe havens’ for physics are grammar schools and the independent sector. The vast majority of state comp’s offer ‘Dual Award Science’ at GCSE which is worth 2 GCSEs and combines all 3 sciences.

    I trained as a science teacher (biology specialism) 2 1/2 years ago. I did a GTP which is on the job training at a lovely new academy (short hand for nightmare school). The place had the worst GCSE past rate in the country, the kids were described as “challenging”. I did my training and then did my NQT (newly qualified teacher) year there. It was good, I only got stabbed once!! I now teach at a “better” school (actually its no better but the kids are easier).

    In all seriousness though I loved the challenge of the first school I taught in I wouldnt recommend learning to teach in such a place. I wouldnt go so far as to say I love the job, I like it but there’s always too much to do. Having moved to a higher achieving school I have had to teach all new courses which is a pain as it doesnt allow you to get a pattern and then alter it to suit the kids. I found training and NQT year very stressful but I think it was the school I was in. Money wise I still earn less than I did when doing research but its moving along, holidays are usually fairly free and make up for the high workload but that said I have done naff all for 6 weeks every summer which is great.

    For my GTP I got 18grand which was more than all the other people I met at the UNi days (danger money) who seemed to be getting 14, GTP means less written essays (well none actually) but you dont get the golden hello at the end of your NQT so its swings and roundabouts.
    I’m rambling a bit but if you have any questions that are specific I can give you my email addy I am off work following a hip op at moment so have some time free.

    oh and most places are crying out for physics teachers, you would teach mostly “science” but then get a nice crop of a-level and maybe a crop of the bright kids doing 3 sciences.

    headfirst
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    dont know where you are, but here you go: the only physics job that came up for a yorkshire wide search of physics jobs*

    http://www.tes.co.uk/jobsSearchResults.aspx?parametrics=JOBCATEGORYCODE|10546&cmd=AddPm&val=JOBCATEGORYCODE|10571

    *as I said, this is a quiet time of year right now

    Premier Icon miketually
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    I reckon being a primary school teacher would be pretty cool.

    Been there, done that, hated it.

    Teaching at a sixth form now, which is great. Our physics numbers are up at the moment.

    headfirst
    Member

    bugger.

    it was at leeds grammar school

    Premier Icon epicyclo
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    The most important thing in life is how much free time you get. If I had my time over I’d go for a profession that gave me that. It’s more important than swags of money.

    You can spend your working life saving up to get free time. Enjoy it while you can 🙂

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