Need a new addition to Bangernomics… my Raison d’être is one owner, cared for by a main dealer etc. Not a higher miler/scrimped/skipped-serviced car…

Anyone know of any? 🙂

Raison d’être

Attempt to look clever fail.

The mrs is selling her Freelander. She got it from her dad’s partner who had it from new. Full service (originally BMW, recently at a local independent)

What happened to the leasing idea?

I’m not against leasing- if it was 100 a month I’d do it. 130 is over the tipping point IMO.

Freelander? markhoracekuk@yahoo.com

I love bangernomics. Any preferences other than how many owners it’s had?

No preference. My ideal is a car owned by someone that had ALL servicing carried out by a main dealer. Tyres still premium brand etc etc. i.e. someone who was fleeced by stealers…then I pick up the car. Isn’t that everyones ideal secondhand purchase? 🙂

Isn’t that everyones ideal secondhand purchase?

Err . . . No.

Main dealer equals minimum servicing to keep the perceived cost of ownership down.
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Marko

Main dealer equals minimum servicing to keep the perceived cost of ownership down.

So you buy from someone who says they did all the servicing themselves?

Main dealers replace and charge for many things that are slightly worn ‘just in case Sir’. I think you are thinking of fleet deal servicing..

Receipts, not ‘stamps’ is what you want.

Yes, I only ask as my fiancée dad has an Alfa dealer (your in Manchester I think) were not too far away.

I got a Celica 190 on a 53, 50k miles, full Toyota service history, new discs and pads, matching tyres, immaculate throughout (one tiny scratch on glove box) 1 previous owner (local) for £2300. She part exchanged it for an Alfa GT. People who I have given a lift too have all commented they thought it was a £6k car. There was a nice enough Fiesta in the other week and he’s said there’s often BMW 3-series coming in at the moment, I test drove one but it wasn’t for me.

Depends on the car, but plenty of models I would prefer to see regularly serviced by an independent specialist rather than main dealer

Yes I’m in Manchester.. Celica 190 – yep its the sort of car I’d have. Obviously been cared for.

Anything really in that vein.

Receipts, not ‘stamps’ is what you want.

I know. I go on alot of criteria but as a rule of them, a 6yr old car with three indie stamps tends to have been treated how it sounds. Indie servicing (unless its an interesting car) tends to be done on a ‘it really needs this replacing’ basis I’ve found…or rectifying an issue cost(s).

You don’t half talk some cobblers

I’m not taking car advice from someone who drove a sooped-up Skoda 😆

I’m not taking criticism of my car choice from a 6ft man who’s owned a Smart car

😆

Thinking of taking Zach to the steam trains on Sunday (does it run on Sundays)? as the Pootles on Sat.

My current car probably fitted your criteria, while it had had 3 owners the last 2 were for only 8 months, with the first owner having it for over 8 years.

535i with full BMW dealer service and 80k.

Sorry, but after working in both main dealer & independants, I’d go for the independant service history every time, they rely on repeat business, in general main dealers have a captive customer base & care less, get them in & out ASAP attitude, that’s why they have time allowances for every job they do. Independants want them done right, one independant I worked at used to go as far as removing all the breather pipes to clean them inside.

My car has to go to a main stealer now, it came back a few weeks ago with the brakes still binding, even though I’d asked them to fix it while it was there, it was VERY obvious they needed looking at & the aerial missing (collect & drop off service)

Dazz I hear you but if it was my money it’d have indie servicing, if it was someone elses money it’d be main dealer servicing.

My experience of main dealer servicing (outside of the 3rd year) is they come to you and say ‘Sir, we noticed this is low, theres a leak, this needs doing, this is a ‘safety item and recommend’, ‘we’ve just priced up the cost of the service and parts for you’…

I’d certainly not choose to buy a car serviced by the local main dealers who left a rag in my fuel tank after sorting out a problem with the fuel gauge sender. Oh, and that was their second attempt after failing the first time. Local independent has always done a far better job.

I got a Celica 190 on a 53, 50k miles, full Toyota service history, new discs and pads

See, I smell a rat when a 50k miles car has had new discs. Done a lot of braking, has that car…… Poor driving or lots of short town journeys? The type of short journeys that kill engines?

That’s my line of thought, just saying like. 🙂

See, I smell a rat when a 50k miles car has had new discs.

You’ve never experienced Toyota main dealer servicing have you?

I booked my old car in for a MOT the day before it was to go into a Toyota service (I’d battered the service dept down on price for a stamp) 😆

I told the Service Manager this and he basically tried his best to rearrange the MOT to them. I told him no (as I was half-suspicious as well).

The car passed. The discs were recent as were the pads. The next day the dealership told me they were pricing up the cost of the ‘service’ to include safety items etc etc as the discs and pads were dangerously low……the tyres also were advised needed changing soon. They gave me percentages ‘80% worn’ etc.

I was gobsmacked and put them right. Imagine your in your 50’s etc and believe what a main dealer tells you as they are the ‘experts’ and you aren’t a mechanic…

Christ on a bendybus. I know what you’re like with warranty claims on bloody mountain bike forks.

I’d pity any dealership you ever bought a car from. I think when they eventually lost the script and beat you to death with a torque wrench, after listening to the evidence, any judge would probably let them off with it. Only expressing surprise that they didn’t do it sooner

Just buy a friggin car and be done with it. You’re a right old Fretful Fred aren’t you?

Its the way they handled me when I went into the dealership to pay my £110 for the oil/filter and stamp that surprised me. A sort of ‘keep you waiting, then take you through a quick train of process where you feel compelled without stopping for thought’. ‘We are preparing your invoice for you now Sir’ I think was the line, I said whoa, can you stop/rewind.

The process involved lots of pausing, looking at me, explaining slowly that the car needed the extra work. A wait again for a Service Manager to be free. Almost as though they were making me feel bad.

When he came out he quickly realised I wouldn’t hand over my card 😆

The process involved lots of pausing, looking at me, explaining slowly

So… pretty much like every other area of your life then, really?

Is someone else posting for you this morning Binners? Actually quite funny for you

I always like to make the effort mate. It just seldom works

I’ll mail you about Sunday anyway jellyhead

Re discs: should add they were fitted as a freebie, as in my daughters boyfriends going to drive her around in this. Had a new air filter too.

Sounds like you get extreme (beyond any reasonable measure) paranoia whenever you need to spend any money!

What’s your budget?

He’s the very personification of the tightwad Yorkshire git!

The prospect of parting with even the smallest amount of money has him fainting in a manner reminiscent of a Jane Austin novel

My Mrs got a Peugeot 207 60 plate for £6,500 from a main dealer it was a Eurocar with 10k on the clock mint condition.

I’m trying to get Citroen to give me a c1 to as near as 90quid a month as possible with a tiny outlay and 15kmiles a year..

I think you want something that your wallet can’t/won’t back up.

So you could go for a new car, because that will be reliable and hassle-free. But you will only pay peanuts. Cheap and reliable. Are you sure you want a Citroen? They tend to only meet one of the above requirments…

Good luck searching, I’d be interested to know what you end up doing.

Given the choice, I’d buy a car with a service history filled out by hand and a bundle of receipts stapled to each page, rather than a dealer serviced car. Then I can see exactly what was replaced, rather than wonder what was and wasn’t replaced at each main dealer stamp.

I’m wary of dealers (and independents) as if you try and haggle on price then things like pollen filters/glow plugs/coolant get ‘missed’ and you end up with just a basic oil and filter change.

Two of the last three cars I’ve owned have not had a cabin air filter installed at all, at least that explained why the dash got so grimy. Both dealer/independent serviced.

Need a new addition to Bangernomics… my Raison d’être is one owner, cared for by a main dealer etc. Not a higher miler/scrimped/skipped-serviced car…

That doesn’t count as a Banger in my book.

The point about premium tyres on a used car has some merit – see lots of 3+year old premium cars running around on miss matched, worn out tyres with wierd names. All the evidence you need to know the cars been neglected.
The dealer servicing but is misguided logic tho – a good specialist indipendant is what your after.

I have one – but you aint having it! D4D Yaris T3, 1 owner (68yr old, me dad), full Toyota service. 02 plate and 60k. Perfic 🙂

I’ve never bought a new car and the majority have been private sale that come with itemised receipts. One Subaru for instance had receipts for 500 quid annual services 😮 madness.

If I was to buy a car with handwritten/owner history with receipts I’d need to understand that he is a competent and qualified mechanic. If I was buying a MG GTB from a keen enthusiast I’d go this route.

Otherwise I’d view the seller as a skinflint/tight ass and I’d adjust my price offered thus wiping out the money he’d saved so what’s the point in DIY servicing in this respect?

The Aygo/c1/107 is/are awesome cars. A true sucessor to the likes of original mini and Dyane etc. Overpriced but at c110 a month for 2yrs your laughing. I’m down to 120 @ month at the moment on them with a dealer….the closer to the end of the month the better the price becomes…

Back to home serviced cars. Out of interest do you think the chap uses Continental replacement tyres or Event/Linglong? I guess the later. Car tyres are very important to me.