- Anybody got/had a BMW F650 or G650?
I’m finding my maxi scooter a bit boring. It’s comfy and practical but duuuuuuuuuuul
I use it for commuting 95% of the time but my commute is changing to mostly motorway and a bit more poke would be nice, whilst still keeping the 70mpg+ the Piaggio gets.
Don’t bother telling me to get a Jap bike because I don’t want one, and on the face of it the BMWs look spot on. I might be able to stretch to the 800cc twin ‘650’ but I’ll be buying used and the G650 looks closer to what I want – Light, slim, pokey in traffic and a high riding position combined with frugality and hopefully a bit of fun.
So has anybody had one, either the old F650 or the new G650, or the twin?
What are they like for a 25 mile commute? Reliabe? Fun? Practical?
Cheers 🙂Posted 4 years ago
I have the bigger brother of the F650GS, the F800GS, but ultimately the same engine. I commute on mine everyday on open roads and through heavy traffic. It’s a great all rounder, easy through traffic and if you can get one with spot lights fitted you become very easy to spot.
Only thing that you have to get used to is the snatchy throttle but after a while you learn how to live with it and get around it. Also, be careful of the inline twin engines as I’m on my second, they can have issues with the counter balance bearing failing and sticking to the pistons. If it goes like mine it’s about £3,800 to fix.Posted 4 years agometalheartSubscriber
Have a look at this maybe?Posted 4 years agofourbangerMember
lank45 – Member
I have the bigger brother of the F650GS, the F800GS, but ultimately the same engine.
Eh!? Ones a single, the other a parallel twin. 800 replaced the 650.
PeterPoddy , they’re nearly 200 kg curb weight. Not sure I’d call it light. Dull as ditchwater and very flat engine in my opinion. Only thing it’s got going for it is it’s cheap.
Xt660z for my money.Posted 4 years ago
Thought the 800 was a much better bike in every respect .
It might be. But I can’t afford one, and I don’t need the extra horsepower as we have a Ducati in the garage for that sort of thing. I need a cheap to run commuter that’s not boring. Horsepower does not necessarily equal fun… 🙂
I know what I want, I just want to hear from people that have/had one, not suggestions on some other bike, OK?
I was on about the newer F650GS, which is a twin with an 800 engine and a confusing name. This one:
I know EXACTLY what you mean, which you’ll see if you read my OP –
I might be able to stretch to the 800cc twin ‘650’ but I’ll be buying used and the G650 looks closer to what I want
I’m talking about the G[/u]650 single, the newer version of the original F650, this one:
The TWIN cylinder “F650” is now the F700, and the F650 single has been re-introduced as the G650
So singles are prefixed G, parallel twins F and flat twins R, for the enduro range at least
Confused yet? 😉
And I want a 650. (maybe one of the earlier twins as the prices are coming down) not an 800Posted 4 years ago
I think the spec of the G650GS is spot on. Just enough power for a short motorway blast in heavy traffic, 70mpg, cheap to service, a bit of wind protection, high riding position, most of them have ABS and heated grips (ABS is an absolute must) and they look quite funky too.Posted 4 years ago
I have an old F650 single that the current G650 is an update of. **** thing you can have it for £600 spent most of today swearing at it…**** brake binding piece of shite… Having said that it cost me 900 quid four years ago and its done 20k with me pushing 60 in total. Commute on it every day and never clean it. Good fun up to 70 but its not great at motorway speeds. G may be better book a test ride on a new one. I reckon the F twin would be better for motorway work….. Have you seen the Huskervana Terra same as the G but a few more bhp.Posted 4 years ago
AA, sounds like you’ve done well to be fair! 🙂Posted 4 years ago
Yeah, I’ll see if I can get a 650 twin for my budget but probably not. And I’m not sure if they’ll be as much fun as a puncy single anyway. They’re a chunk heavier and bigger, see? The most fun bike I’ve ever had was tiny and light. And that’s what I’m attracted to. I can live with the motorway bit, and at the time I’ll be using it it’ll be heavy traffic anyway, so point and squirt and nice’n’slim should be fine. 🙂
Budget is around £4000 which gets low mile G650
I don’t want a Husky. That would be so far down off the bottom of the list it’s untrue. Or a Kawasai Versys cos they’re pig ugly and look and feel cheap
the husky is a G650 with different badges and more power. They also could well be going cheap as its been discontinued.Posted 4 years agopaulxSubscriber
Everything you need to know can be found here ….
I had the F650GS Dakar a few years back – great bike and surprisingly good off road too. 60 – 70 mpg irc and nothing every went wrong with it.Posted 4 years agodeviantMember
fourbanger – Member
Xt660z for my money.
That Yamaha XT engine is genuinely unbreakable and any old mechanic will know their way around it, underpowered at 45-50 bhp but makes good torque from no revs and holds onto it through the (limited) rev range….it is a single after all.
Brand new from loads of dealerships from £5,200 upwards….pick the model you want, they do a version with 17 inch road wheels and supermoto styling, they do a version with a larger front wheel (19 inch) and knobbly tyres for more trail work….
….and they do an out and out trans world tourer with a larger rear wheel and much larger front (21 inch i think?), it also has a larger fuel tank, longer travel suspension and the exhausts have been moved out of harms way and put under the pillion, great official set of aluminium luggage available too….its called the Tenere and also comes in 1200cc flavour but the 660cc single is the one to go for.
The BMW bikes arent bad, a colleague toured a lot of europe on one of the single cylinder versions but their reliability still lags behind the big four Japanese brands.Posted 4 years ago
It depends what you want, BMW have been as much of a fashion accessory as anything since the Ewan and Charlie ‘long way round’ series but if you want a genuinely hassle free commuter buy the Yamaha.
Xt660z for my money.
From my OP:
“Don’t bother telling me to get a Jap bike because I don’t want one,“
Has anybody actually read the thread title either?
It’s NOT “Tell me what bike to buy” because I don’t need that advice thanks.
It’s “Anybody got/had a BMW F650 or G650?” because I wanted to know what people who had one thought of them, their experiences, good or bad.Posted 4 years ago
Rachel, if you have the funds then I’d start looking now! December is a fine time to be looking for bikes, far better than spring when everybody’s looking for one. Prices are always lower too!
Even if you don’t want to ride it yet you can spend the time getting it serviced/sorted/fettled ready for the warmer weather while you sit on it making brrrrm brrrrm noises! 😆
And the OP, I know you don’t want to hear this but if your commute is changing to motorway miles consider something with a fairing (at least a top half) as naked bikes at that speed become tiresome quite quickly (leading to locked shoulder muscles if you’re unlucky! Not much fun) I suspect the difference from the well protected scooter will be noticeable.Posted 4 years ago
I’ve got something with a fairing. A Piaggio X10. Its probably the most ideal bike possible for the commute in question. I know all about that thanks. But like I said, I find it boring. I’ll probably get through the winter on it and then chop it in. I’m, oddly for STW, quite capable of deciding what’s best for me. I just want to know what owners of said bike think of them, as I’ve already said. I don’t need advice on what you think is best thanks. I did 30,000 miles on an unfaired Speed Triple just fine, for instance, including one day of 820 miles. I know about touring on naked bikes. And we’ve got something else faired in the garage too, a Ducati ST3s, should I need it.Posted 4 years ago
Metalhearts link above was a very good read actually. It confirmed what I thought. I’ll go and test ride one at some stage I think. 🙂
Yeah but if you wanted a sensible answer you’d have googled rather than asked us lot! 😉Posted 4 years ago
Could you afford to run both? Scoot on crappy days and have the Beemer for the rest! Keeps the salt off the naked BMW next winter and drops the mileage on both if you want to sell them on at a later date.
Crappy weather commute on fun bike equals fairly grim journey anyway so might as well plod in on the scooter but the good day + the fun bike makes the fun bike seem even better! 🙂
Can you get a bigger screen for the Beemer? Just something to take some of the blast away maybe?
No. I can’t afford or have space for three bikes. It would be daft to run two bikes for the same thing anyway as the Duke is the summer bike and is technically my wife’s bike. We both use it, we tour on it etc. The scooter is technically mine. Although we both use it but almost solely for commuting. We don’t need another bike for touring or another for commuting. I’d have to sell the X10 to find the new bike.
I’d see about a bigger screen yes, but like I already said the motorway part will be in heavy traffic most of the time so speeds will be lower and I don’t mind sitting at 70 anyway. The BMW will have more in reserve than the X10 at that speed.Posted 4 years ago
I’ve been commuting by bike since 1997. I know all about weather. £500 worth of Dianese goretex sorts that. 🙂
Dunno. I’ll see.
Shame 🙁 New STW shed thread? 😉Posted 4 years ago
The Beemer’s going to be fine for the summer, see how it goes on the m’way commute and have a think in the autumn, being a Bmw you’d not lose much in a year anyway. And there’s not much more fun than hooning around on a big single (plus they tickle your nethers at certain speeds!) get a naughty pipe for it and look for tunnels/ bridges/gorges etc! 🙂
And cheer up, your going to get a new bike, whatever it is that’s supposed to be fun! 😉
Also if you’re in traffic then the skinny and taller Beemer’s going to be miles better than the Scoot for filtering. I wish I could’ve afforded gore-tex when I was a courier! 🙂 Still, it wouldn’t have stopped the snowball that fell out of my visor once while stopped at a traffic light on a blizzardy day! 😆Posted 4 years ago
So back on task, an old Funduro, like mine would be fine for what you want. Mine has a tooth less on the front sproket gets a bit buzzy at 70 and is more comfortable at 65 on motorways. I reckon the new G650 would be better. Screen on the funduro is fine and its bodywork adds protection for the legs. Compared to a naked its much better. I have commutted year round for almost three years with minimal servicing and almost never cleaning it. The brakes are weak and prone to binding if not regularly cleaned and the head bearings dont last long as the rad melts the grease, dont know if the newer version has fixed this. I do know the newer G had hot starting issues when it came out. I wouldnt bother with a sertao unless you are going to go off road. I use road tyres on mine rather than the dual purpose Torances or whatever as they give a smoother ride. No idea what the fuel consumption is, it does about 160miles to reserve but I dont knowwhat size the tank is! The newer fuel injected G is supposed to be much better.Posted 4 years agoAusMember
I had the 650GS and also the bigger brother 800. The 650 was entirely competent, reliable, practical etc etc … but I found it just a bit dull. Does most things fine, esp shortish commute, fine, but I found any ‘cruising’ type ride, long straight A road/motorway or extended ride tiresome on it re comfort, vibration and a sense that the engine was always straining a wee bit. But I suspect I just find a slightly racier position more engaging, so may well be me more than the bike.Posted 4 years ago
Also if you’re in traffic then the skinny and taller Beemer’s going to be miles better than the Scoot for filtering
See that’s it. The big Piaggio is fantastically comfy, superbly equipped (ABS, traction control, switchable fuel maps, Bluetooth, USB port, even the handlebar controls light up FFS!) one of the best 2 up bikes I’ve ever ridden, economical, massively practical…… But it’s not as good in traffic as the GT200 I had before it because it’s big and wide and a bit slack in the head angle department. It’s got a lovely quiet, smooth engine and plenty of power but it’s got no character.
Mrs PP used to have a DT125 which was a hoot, and I had a Monster 696 which made me laugh out loud. What both bikes had in common (apart from being red) was that they were small and light and not particularly powerful…. So you could thrash the brains out of them without ever getting into trouble and throw them around like a BMX.
So that’s where the BMW idea came from. 70mpg and cheap to run for the commute but in theory should have a lovely low down punch off the mark from a big single engine for a bit of fun whilst being higher and slimmer for filtering and 20kg+ lighter than the X10 with nice wide bars to throw it around a bit more.Posted 4 years ago
Add in that most of them come with ABS (I’ll never buy another bike without it) and heated grips and will take a top box easily if they don’t have one and I think it’s about right. After all, people tour the world on these things, so a busy M3 should be a doddle. 🙂
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