Any professional highway engineers on here?
Or look for it in this (again, if it’s bike related) https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/3808/ltn-2-08.pdfPosted 4 years ago
Not trying to be all coy and dripfeed, but it’s not at all related to bikes and all about interpretation of guidelines – I really need direct input from somebody who can look at the particular situation. To be honest a lawyer may be better than a highways design engineer, but it seems its the highways engineers who get to speak with authority on this – I’m looking to dispute the opinion of one.Posted 4 years agohoneybadgerxSubscriber
How much of an opinion are you wanting? If you’re wanting a full and professional one to enter a formal dispute then realistically you’re going to have approach an engineering consultancy with a highways department and get some advice from them.
EDIT: This will cost you money.Posted 4 years agoschnorSubscriber
Definitely what honeybadgerx said, if you’re thinking about entering into a dispute against your Highways Department (or even after a second opinion), then an engineering consultancy / chartered surveyor – depending on what exactly the problem is – should 100% be your next step.
And yes, it could be expensive, but you get what you pay for. Most of these guys are very good indeed (and more qualified than entire council departments, and that’s speaking as a council employee)Posted 4 years ago
Just after somebody taking a look and giving a simple opinion – not after something formal at this stage, just want to know what sort of case we have. crispo ygm.
It’s reassuring to hear about the competence of consultancies – though my experience of our highways department is competence is something they’re sadly lacking in so being more competent wouldn’t be hard (no insult intended to any competent council employees). Hopefully the council at the next layer down will be paying, as they’ve now formally tabled a reason for refusal which disagrees with the highways engineer and will presumably be looking for somebody to support that opinion at appeal. Though given I’ve provided much of the research to get us this far I thought I might as well see if I could get the opinion of somebody more qualified than me.Posted 4 years agohoneybadgerxSubscriberkeppochMember
I’d suggest that if any of the content of pjm84’s link relates to the type of query or dispute you have you should be seeking someone more like a transport engineer or someone working in development planning rather than a highways engineer.
A subtle difference perhaps but will tend to relate to their experience and nature of the work they are involved in.Posted 4 years ago
Very likely, stimpy as it’s probably going to come down to the lawyers (it is in the end all about legal interpretation rather than anything only a highways engineer would know).
Could you drop me a line at: aracer AT mail DOT com
Thanks for the clarification, keppoch – the chap who’s opinion I’m disputing calls himself a development control engineer, working in the highways department, and is AMICE. Wasn’t sure what better description to use. Oh, and I’ve read through a lot of MfS – it’s silent on this issue.Posted 4 years agosleeplessMember
I have knowledge of the adoption of highway by local authority (LA). such roads design is the interpretation of the documents found in the link above, by the developer’s design engineers.
the local authority are supposed to be SQEP (suitably qualified and experienced persons)to peer review the design. my current dealings with LAs is really that of them purely checking the developer is providing proof (documents, drawings and calculation)of how their proposed design meets the relevant highway standard. Similar to how Building Regs are approved (but that is another story).
such proof used to be ‘design reviewed’ but the cost of owning that responsibility is always high. hence the change of tack by LAs to simply agree that the proof is present in a ‘peer review’. the developer therefore is signing the responsibility that the standards are met.
when the section 38 is finally completed, the money bond has usually been reduced to a few pence, as roads are a typical area where developers can save cash. this explains why some estate roads are left unsurfaced for years whilst the developers sell to new developers once they sell enough houses, what ever the phase of completion, to recoup there investments.
So the focus of a claim could be focussed on the SQEPness of the LA highways team. you could look at the highway agency design guides and try and see how the developer interpreted them, but it is the SQEP of the LA which would be your stumbling block. the y are clever enough to make sure this area of contention is sufficiently covered by the senior engineers even if the section 38 is managed by technicians of less SQEP ability.Posted 4 years ago
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