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  • Anti-snap locks / Euro cylinders
  • Pieface
    Full Member

    If I can get a Euro cylinder that fits well and only protrudes a millimeter or 2 beyond the lock face, is an anti-snap lock necessary?

    I guess you’d need a good few mm purchase to get enough leverage to snap them, therefore if I can get a good fit I can save some money by just going for anti-pick / bump?

    Cougar
    Full Member

    The lock face is on a handle which can be prised away from the door giving more purchase, n’est-ce pas?

    Pieface
    Full Member

    If that’s the case then I guess so, thought they were a gimmick.

    Thanks.

    footflaps
    Full Member

    You can always whack a big screwdriver in the lock and then strike that with a hammer – will snap a flush cylinder.

    Jason
    Free Member

    I upgraded all our Euro lock cylinders a while ago, one of which I had lost the key for. I was amazed at how easy it was to break open…

    bencooper
    Free Member

    They are stupidly easy to break – only had to do one but it was scary.

    Edit: First video that popped up on YouTube:

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqhhXyROxQM[/video]

    flatfish
    Free Member

    She took her time!!!

    By coincidence, I was working on a break in a couple of weeks ago when the SOCO turned up to dust for fingerprints and I asked him how many “snapped” cylinder break in’s he’d come across.
    In six years, he’s seen about 3.

    I’ve been a locksmith for 10 years now, I’ve never seen one.

    That’s not to say it doesn’t happen.

    I do, however supply antisnap cylinder’s if I’m asked but would normally fit a standard euro cylinder.

    Pieface
    Full Member

    Is the anti-pick / bump feature worth paying extra for?

    flatfish
    Free Member

    If your getting an anti snap it’ll come with those features too.
    All new cylinders(anti-snap or not) come with mushroom drivers now a days which is an anti-pick/bump feature anyway.

    enduroforever
    Free Member

    Anti-bump cylinder or not, it takes seconds to break through a door and very quietly too if you know what your doing and have a few simple tools

    scuttler
    Full Member

    We had our locks snapped one night 4 years back and had two cars and some other stuff nicked – the point being that it was quick and quiet. It’s not an expensive upgrade and if you’re having a new door fitted, hardly an additional cost at all. If you’re extra paranoid (like I became) you can put PAS24 security door handles on too to make it much harder to get to the lock itself – http://hoppe.co.uk/door-window-handles/

    @flatfish – not sure where you are but ask a West Yorkshire Police SOCO how many they’ve seen as it was/is an extremely prevalent MO around here to the point that they had some reasonably high profile campaigns.

    flatfish
    Free Member

    Miles away from West Yorkshire. I’m in Bristol.
    I had heard about there being a problem around that area TBF.

    meehaja
    Free Member

    In leeds its a big problem. I think council house doors had easy locks. It is such an easy way to gain access that when we call for police back up to break in, they generally bring a drill and molgrips (the tool not the member) rather than a ram.

    I’m not a locksmith and I can “do” a euro cylinder in less than 2 mins (as demonstrated to my friend when she lost her keys!)

    JoeG
    Free Member

    molgrips (the tool not the member)

    meehaja – so are you calling molgrips a tool or a dick? 😉

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