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  • Premier Icon Dougal
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    OK then people, to stop the bitching on this thread describe your ideal XC course.

    Aviemore SXC course, tech climbs, tech descents, and a nuts fast singletrack descent section. Was yesterday, so you all missed it for this year. Adam Craig reckoned it was the best course he had ever ridden in 2007.

    Kirroughtree

    Actually, because of the constraints of the lap length, it turns out to be pretty flat and dull. The rocky stuff that's in 10 At Kirroughtree just isn't used.

    ski
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    Were they all track standing at the start, is that standard for this level of racing now?

    Top respect, I think some of that would have me off walking parts of that tbh!

    Premier Icon njee20
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    Nah you're not supposed to track stand on the start, the odd person usually does, but you'll get fined if they see you do it. Agree it does look a bit like it in the Freecaster vid.

    Premier Icon Dougal
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    Nick – Your perfect course description IS Aviemore.

    grumm
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    technical these days seems to be linked to 'needs balls',

    But if you have the technical ability to ride something difficult well then it doesn't require as much balls as it might do for someone who isn't as good – the two are linked surely.

    Premier Icon njee20
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    Maybe I'll have to get up to Aviemore sometime then Dougal!

    Grumm what I mean is that there are a number of things deemed 'technical' that are really about balls. Drop offs are a good example I'd say. Doing a 10ft drop off is largely about bravery. Of course there is skill involved, but the big thing is being brave enough. Twisty, rocky singletrack can be technical in that there will be a vast difference between the slow folk, who will still be able to ride it, albeit picking their way through, and the fast folk, who will be much much faster and more fluid. A drop off is likely to have a divide, people will do it, or people won't.

    Just my opinion, I seem to have a lot of them on course design 🙂

    juan
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    Most of it wouldn't be out of place on some black and red trailcentres

    Well it's not like trail centers (even black) are that difficult are they?

    The two first have managed to finish the transvesubienne. Which is lot more than a lot of people around here can say. I am sure most of them would ride with GD or FS is sponsors would allow them. As for the comment about how hard is it to ride when you are in the red bla bla bla… It's actually very easy.

    When you are a pro and it's your job.

    Premier Icon Dougal
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    Juan – Can you pass that along to your translator. Thanks.

    Premier Icon njee20
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    Do you mean Schurter and Absalon have completed the Transvesubienne, and would ride with a gravity dropper or on FS if they had a choice? A number do have a choice, most seemed to opt for HT on Saturday with some exceptions. Gravity Droppers are heavy, and that matters to a lot of the riders, they can ride the stuff without one, why add several hundred grams needlessly?

    I doubt they find the courses 'very easy' to ride flat out, just easier than most (if not all!) folk on here!

    rolfharris
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    It never gets easier, it just gets faster.

    olaf_hansen
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    As a bit of an aside, the day before this year's Transvesubienne, we came down to dinner and found both Schurter and Absalon sitting at the end of the table. We ended up being placed next to them – anyway I asked Nino if he was going to use to telescopic seatpost and he just laughed at me. He also found it absolutely hilarious when I mentioned it would take me 12hrs to finish – that's because he did it in 6hrs. Both were on FS bikes, but oddly Schurter was riding with tubes.

    grumm
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    He also found it absolutely hilarious when I mentioned it would take me 12hrs to finish – that's because he did it in 6hrs.

    Sounds like a bit of a cock.

    Premier Icon crazy-legs
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    Rolling, long climbs are fine, but not 100% of the climbing in one go straight off the start line.

    A lot of the old Welsh Series XC courses were like that back in the days when Schmoo was organising them. He actually said that he didn't rate technical ability, he just wanted a dirt crit although rider demands usually meant he put in a few bits of tech stuff. I remember several of his races at Afan and Rhonnda just being a 3-4mile climb, bit of flat then a long fireroad/singletrack mixed descent. Repeat 4 times.

    olaf_hansen
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    'Sounds like a bit of a cock.'

    actually they both turned out to be really approachable and interested in what us jokers were doing there.

    juan
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    How did you like the course olaf 😉

    olaf_hansen
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    Juan – TV nearly killed me. I was absolutely wrecked by the half way point. Just outside Nice, I thought the worst was over … but I was facing the wrong way 🙂

    Premier Icon njee20
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    a 3-4mile climb, bit of flat then a long fireroad/singletrack mixed descent

    I did a Dragon XC in 2007 that was like that. Conversely the next one was an awesome course, very odd!

    juan
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    olaf if you managed that far you "must" have seen me.
    I was with the people having pic nic on the river just before the St claire food point. The family the two roadies and someone else…

    juan
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    but oddly Schurter was riding with tubes.

    Well not odd at all. You do know why absalon did not won…

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