- A tale of human honesty, and stumped as to what to do?
chilled, you’ve had some good fortune, IMO if you sell it for much more than you’d initially have accepted in ignorance, pay some of that forwards and keep the karma flowing with a charity donation of a portion of the extra, or some similar gesture. send the guy who identified it a bottle of wine, or ask for his idea on where to send the donation.Posted 4 years ago
I gave him a couple of beers on the spot. Said thank you and didn’t know what else to do.
I plan on sending him something if I get a decent whack for it.
Depends on what I get for it as to how much goes to charity. I’ve raised thousands for charities in the last decade and am currently not in the best state of finances myself.Posted 4 years agojamesoSubscriber
Wow.. I looked at this and thought it may be a tad small and discounted it. No idea what it actually was. Missed a bargain there! 😉 In all honesty I’d have got back to you if it became clear what it was after buying, but glad you realised before selling it at the original asking price!Posted 4 years agocrashtestmonkeyMember
chilled, you’ve had some good fortune, IMO if you sell it for much more than you’d initially have accepted in ignorance, pay some of that forwards and keep the karma flowing with a charity donation of a portion of the extra,
I note your comments about personal financial situation. If it were me I’d do a load of research, maybe get it in a mag, get it sold at the sort of auction or with the sort of publicity where it will realise its true potential value, then split the “profit” (ie, what it goes for minus what you were going to sell it for in ignorance) between you and a charity. A cancer charity would be very apt given the bike’s apparent provenance.
You end up financially and spiritually richer, someone who is an afficionado gets a piece of cycling history.Posted 4 years agomattjgSubscriber
fair enough, perhaps it’s working the other way around then, you’ve done your bit already and the karma spirits have smiled on you!***
good luck & let us know what happens.
*** obviously the whole karma thing is nonsense really, but it’s an enjoyable thought-toy all the samePosted 4 years agokonagirlMember
Your other option, if you are unsure of selling it, would be to contact a Tour de France museum and see if they would put the leg-work into confirming its heritage. If it is found to be Laurent Fignon’s frame, then you could offer to allow them to display it on loan for however long you want/need, until you decide you want to sell up. It would give the bike an audience.Posted 4 years agomugsys_m8Subscriber
Fignon is pretty much a household name in France. I think he was involved with some charity work towards the end but not sure. I also think he had a cycle holiday/ training camp business.
Either way I’d try to get in touch with his organisations/ family/ former team/ leagcies in France.Posted 4 years agoplop_pantsMember
When I did a race in Normandy an old boy came up to me and started talking to me about his best friend, Laurent Fignon, he started crying and needed some help calming down. With that sort of passion for the man it might be prudent to advertise in France once authenticated, maybe that way it will go to the right person.Posted 4 years ago
It’s got Delta brakes, Veloce shifters, Daytona mech and a Shimano headset.
The frame number is the interesting bit, the rest is a right old mish-mash.
I’d be checking it out carefully before asking £2000 for it.
…and despite the rarity of the Delta brakes, they were well known for being less than efficient at the job of reducing speed.Posted 4 years ago
Just had the worlds biggest telephone chain of asking for peoples numbers but finally got hold of my friend who I haven’t spoken to in 4 years.
He’s going to ring his dad and get the frame history and ring me back.
I’m also going to pull the forks out when I get 5 mins. Someone has suggested to me that some of the old team bikes may have had the rider initials on the steerer tube too.
Will report back.
PaulPosted 4 years ago
Just got off the phone about half an hour ago from Dave March at UniversalCycleCentre. He thinks the code indicates it is genuine and also thinks he might know the guy who sprayed it from the original colour. His colleague worked on these back then..
I’ve emailed him back and he’s promised to get back to me with what information he can offer and will hopefully throw insight into some history.
If it is the one he thinks it is a guy in Leicester had it sprayed and they tried to advise against doing it..
Will post up the email he sends back.
Also interestingly he reckons these weren’t actually built by RSP but the team frames that were custom geometry were made by smaller bespoke frame builders to the riders specification and then stamped up by the RS division.. well interesting reading and researching this!Posted 4 years ago
Funnily enough I’ve just been looking at it in my kitchen and am considering removing the ebay ad and just keeping it but getting it sprayed back up… but then that will lead to attempting to find all the original parts that would have been on it and that’s going to get expensive!
Gonna take it for a blast in a bit when the traffic calms down, I’ve become pretty attached to it now I’ve started finding out what it really is.Posted 4 years ago
Here you go Crikey,
been doing a bit of digging. For some of these team frames Raleigh shipped the parts to other builders and they built them with the parts shipped.
I have copied and pasted directly from my email.
I can speak english.
This frame was built in 1990 (90) – was the first frame produced for this season (1) and was made for Laurent Fignon (LF).
This frame has been produced by Cyfac for CASTORAMA Team and for your info, we could repaint it in its initial color as we did for another UK customer at the beginning of the year ( see picture attached).
Aymeric Le Brun,
Tél : 02 47 24 67 42
De : Paul Bennett [mailto:email@example.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 11 juillet 2013 21:03
À : firstname.lastname@example.org
Objet : S’il vous plaît pouvez-vous aider? Laurent Fignon frame?
Je suis désolé pour mon mauvais français écrit.
Pouvez-vous parler ou d’écrire en anglais?
Je vais écrire en anglais si c’est ok?
I have what i have been told is an old Raleigh Castorama and upon inspection many people seem to believe that it was ridden by Lauren Fignon.
It has been said that Cyfac built these? Is that true?
If so could you confirm the identity as a true Laurent Fignon frame?
It has obviously been re-painted since it was manufactured..
Many thanks in advance,
et au cas où vous ne pouvez pas lire l’anglais, j’ai essayé d’utiliser google translate
J’ai ce que j’ai dit est un ancien Castorama Raleigh et, après inspection Beaucoup de gens semblent croire qu’il a été monté par Lauren Fignon.
Il a été dit que Cyfac construit ceux-ci? Est-ce vrai?
Si oui pourriez-vous confirmer l’identité comme un véritable cadre Fignon Laurent?
Il a évidemment été repeint depuis qu’il a été fabriqué ..
Paul BennettPosted 4 years ago
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