A tale of human honesty, and stumped as to what to do?
Not in any way a criticism, or an attempt to deflate your enthusiasm, but pictures of Laurent Fignon in 1990 seem to suggest a bike with a taller headtube, and with a different version of Campagnolo groupset.
This in no way detracts from the frame itself, but does suggest that it might not be an actual Fignon frame, and has had a different groupset added later.
The frame number suggests that I might be wrong, but is certainly worth more investigation.
The combination of Campag Delta brakes and Campag Ergo levers also suggests some mismatching…Posted 4 years ago
He was buying it for a mate as a starter bike, then he had a turn of conscience I believe and had to tell me. I gave him a couple of beers, but I just can’t believe it!
Has seriously restored my faith in people.
As for the groupset, I think it is much newer isn’t it than 1990 campag? Clearly added later.
It’s deffo a team bike, the detailing on the lugs and rider tag etc make it obvious apparently.Posted 4 years ago
More chat about frame numbers here..Posted 4 years ago
The bike Fignon would have ridden at Roubaix and the bike he would have ridden at the Tour would probably have been completely different bikes. Less need for aero brakes on the Roubaix, less need for a taller head tube on the Tour.
The brakes were provided by the company in a sponsorship deal; you don’t get to pick and choose.
Frame size is/was like shoe size; you don’t change it.
Tour 1990:Posted 4 years ago
Well for anyone that was interested in my Raleigh 753 rsp for sale…
Turns out that I had something different in my possession and didn’t realise…
Firstly I owe the sincerest of thanks to Matt_Wood off of retrobike who turned up this evening to potentially buy my bike… you have actually just returned a little bit of my faith in people with that gesture of honesty and kindness…
I let Matt take it for a test spin and he had a good look at the bike whilst I left him to it… he realised I didn’t know what I had in my possession and rather than rip me off and make a profit chose to show me.
It appears I was a bit oblivious to the fact I own a Raleigh Castorama which was frame number 1 for team rider Laurent Fignon in 1990. A tour rider who actually won the tour in 1983 and 1984. He sadly died of cancer in June 2009.
Kind of gob smacked! Apparently not the original paint job either.
Funnily enough had I listened better at a point in time when this was passed on to me I might have known more about it.
I bought this off an old school friend who’s father had owned it. I’d done his dad a few favours in the past and as he’d hung up his riding boots (the father) due to being knocked off of his time trial bike he sold/practically gave this to me. I seem to remember my friend saying something about it being a tour bike… but thought he meant some sort of tour replica…. not that it had actually been round the tour!
Anyway. Photos of the frame serial number and campag lugs etc below.
I’m interested in knowing more about the history of these… and also an indication of what it might be worth to the right buyer?
I might ebay it but I’m also considering keeping it now as it’s got historic value. Any information and advice would be greatly appreciated
More pics below on linkPosted 4 years ago
i think they were made by Cyfac in France . they are still building frames .
contact them and they will tell you if it is one of theirs and if it is genuine .
I think it is a Raleigh frame built in Ilkeston in the UK,judging by the serial number.
One thing which does ring true is the race number braze on under the top tube….
Posted 4 years ago
No the guy Matt (an enthusiast) came looking at it expecting an Ilkeston built special products Raleigh, he owns a Castarama and has had a few of the Ilkeston RSP frames already himself and spotted the differences on the frame welds immediately, quite different apparently to the Ilkeston built ones… hence he then flipped it over to look at the serial numbers.
I need to get in contact with my mates dad and find out where it came from. As I say, I vaguely remember him banging on about it’s tour history when he sold it me and not really paying attention to what he was saying.Posted 4 years agosteviousMember
What a cool story.
OP – I like the fact that you’re being honest about not appreciating the significance of the bike. There’s probably a really passionate fan out there who’d be delighted to get their hands on it.
Just a thought – if you do end up getting a big pile of cash for it, it might be cool if some of it went to a cancer charity or a cycling charity.Posted 4 years ago
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