http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-22541019

2.9 mill scrap

😯

This is so weird- I remember the exact sane thing happening when I was a young kid- so 30 odd years ago. Aircraft carrier, called Ark Royal, decommissioned and sold for scrap, everyone very sad about it. I even had commemorative picture on my bedroom wall. History repeating, eh?

10 years before a replacement – not good 🙁

Pointless old crap.

Pointless old crap.

Care to elaborate?

Why is that sad. Isnt it a big machine designed to kill people ?

The idea of someone getting emotional over the scrapping of an aircraft carrier is really quite bizarre. Still, I don’t generally understand the spaffing over war machinery that you get on here (and elsewhere). I suppose I assumed most people would have grown out of it by now.

The idea of someone getting emotional over the scrapping of an aircraft carrier is really quite bizarre. Still, I don’t generally understand the spaffing over war machinery that you get on here (and elsewhere). I suppose I assumed most people would have grown out of it by now.

Indeed, it’s almost as common as people going off on their high horses

do they come in any other colours.

Trimix – a presence and protection!

We dont have an empire anymore.

Trimix – correct but not sure how that relates to this topic?

Indeed, it’s almost as common as people going off on their high horses

Sorry I don’t share others’ hard-on for military equipment. 😆

Not sure how that’s getting on a high horse. Seems like you’re getting offended on other peoples’ behalf again.

I woke up on the Ark Royal once. That’s not a euphamism. That was after a very, very heavy night out In Liverpool! 😀

Doesn’t need to be a euphemism when you’re admitting to having pulled a sailor.

Seems like you’re getting offended on other peoples’ behalf again.

Nope, just passing an observation. Seems to have ruffled your feathers though.

Not sure how that’s getting on a high horse.

The idea of someone getting emotional over the scrapping of an aircraft carrier is really quite bizarre. Still, I don’t generally understand the spaffing over war machinery that you get on here (and elsewhere). I suppose I assumed most people would have grown out of it by now.

Pretty much all of what you wrote appeared to be intended to portray that you feel that you’re better than those who do have an interest in engineering. The bit in bold particularly so.

HTH

‘People who have an interest in engineering’ 😆

Strangely many of those with an ‘interest in engineering’ seem particularly excited about anything involving war. And the bit about growing out of it – it’s a pretty common thing for kids to be into fighter planes etc – seems odd to me for lots of adults to still have the same obsession. I don’t think I’m better than them – I just find it weird.

Being a bit over-sensitive aren’t we? How ironic.

We dont have an empire anymore.

Most people feel it’s appropriate for an island nation to maintain at least a modest navy. And our aircraft carriers weren’t even considered to BE aircraft carriers by the yanks, so it was modest.

We have sold our harriers to the US marines for spares rendering our present carriers useless, our new carriers won’t be around for 10 yrs and we’re buying the wrong (and very expensive) planes to put on them – if they ever work. So yes, it’s all a bit of a downer.

I woke up on the Ark Royal once. That’s not a euphamism. That was after a very, very heavy night out In Liverpool!

HELLO SAILOR!

I don’t think I’m better than them – I just find it weird.

Sorry, the implication that you were a mature adult whereas others are just mere kids does sort of fit the dictionary definition of ‘high horse’.

Being a bit over-sensitive aren’t we?

Not at all, as I said, just an observation. A second observation being that having your superiority complex called seems to ruffle your feathers. If the cap fits, ‘n’all.

It’s a perfectly adult thing to note skill involved in the design and engineering of military hardware, whilst loathing its intended purpose. Adults can usually separate their emotions e.g. the Vulcan – amazing engineering, absolutely abhorrent reason for its inception.

In Portsmouth there is HMS Victory and HMS Warrior – I’m guessing that some of you feel it’s a waste to keep them?

In Portsmouth there is HMS Victory and HMS Warrior – I’m guessing that some of you feel it’s a waste to keep them?

Oh absolutely – they were just crude killing machines 🙄

The first Ark Royal, launched 1587, was the flagship of the English fleet during the campaign against the Spanish Armada

Sorry, the implication that you were a mature adult whereas others are just mere kids does sort of fit the dictionary definition of ‘high horse’.

If you say so. I’d call it ‘having a different opinion to you’. You seem very over sensitive about it though.

In Portsmouth there is HMS Victory and HMS Warrior – I’m guessing that some of you feel it’s a waste to keep them?

Dunno, for some reason I don’t have an encyclopaedic knowledge of our current military hardware.

Grum, you’re not alone. I don’t get it either but each to their own. It’s good that people are passionate about something.

It does seem that people are generally interested in the machinery of war because it is bigger or quicker or in some other way perceived to be more awesome than the civilian equivalents. I think for most it’s not a celebration of conflict.

Grum – no interest in our history either then?

Yeah I have a degree in history.

It does seem that people are generally interested in the machinery of war because it is bigger or quicker or in some other way perceived to be more awesome than the civilian equivalents. I think for most it’s not a celebration of conflict.

That sort of makes sense. Though the fact that our biggest engineering projects are usually military is in itself a lot sadder than the retiring of an aircraft carrier IMO.

Grum – a degree in History and you don’t know about HMS Victory? I’m very surprised!

Oh, that HMS Victory. 😳

I’m always amazed at how good this sounds:

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8C4AIFgUg&feature=youtube_gdata[/video]

Oh and grum, hate to burst your bubble but you’re not the first to realize that war = bad!! Peace brother 😉

Whaaaaaaaaat!?

🙂

I’d call it ‘having a different opinion to you’.

Nope, that would just have been “war materiel doesn’t interest me“, as opposed to “war materiel doesn’t interest me, and anyone who is interested in it needs to grow up“, which, paraphrasing, is how you came across. One is a difference of opinion, one is passing judgement [from a high horse].

Though the fact that our biggest engineering projects are usually military is in itself a lot sadder than the retiring of an aircraft carrier IMO.

Not always – Concorde being a notable exception. And all the more more awesome given that when the SR-71 Blackbird spy-plane (and the MiG25 designed to shoot it down) were retired, it was the fastest plane in the sky. And its passengers and crew could drink champagne in comfort, not have to wear flying suits and oxygen masks.

Have a look at shermer75’s post for an example of how to disagree with me without getting on your own high horse. 😉

I spent 2 years in Ark Royal as one of the engineers and had some of my greatest memories in that ship.

The engineering that went into a self sustaining ship of that size was excellent. Where else do you get to operate a system that is designed to land a variety of fixed and rotary wing planes laden with fuel and weapons on top of a fairly small platform moving at upto 30mph packed full of thousands of tonnes of fuel and weapons, frontline repair facilities all powered by 4 Olympus Gas Turbine engines driving through a pair of huge gearboxes designed by David Brown (of Aston Martin DB fame). Not forgetting the control and stabilisation systems and basic hotel services (accom, freezers, galleys and accom, vent, fresh water…) that make it as comfortable a place to work and relax as you can expect.

Its a shame to see her go but at the end of the day the memories and friends remain and thats the important bit (ime).

Have a look at shermer75’s post for an example of how to disagree with me without getting on your own high horse.

Ah, Edinburgh defence, Lancaster variant.

How do you work that out? 😕

He made the point without sounding pompous and over sensitive. Something you might take heed of.

He made a point without sounding pompous and over sensitive.

Something you appear to be struggling to achieve.

‘I know you are you said you are but what does that make me’ – is that really the level you are stooping to? 😆

Come on then, explain how it’s an ‘Edinburgh defence’ to point out that shermer75 made a similar point to you in a much less pompous, over sensitive, high horsey way.