Is Andrew Gilligan now in charge of ‘Sexing Up’ cycling in London then? What could possibly go wrong?

Good PR, easy to do, probably doesn’t cost much to set up, and will be a nice revenue stream. Doubt this would even make the top 10 in a cyclists list of dangerous driving practices though.

Edit: Also, WTF is that yellow thing in the photo?

daft idea.
sometimes cars end up in the ASL, not because they’re being pushy but because the traffic has come to a standstill as they’re going through and they’ve got stuck. this will just encourage people to keep going through the reds.

EDIT: what ^^^^^ he said

well both are jumping the red light what is your point caller?

Are you suggesting it is safer to only partially jump a red. If a cyclist has stopped in the box they get hit in either scenario

If you can’t stop safely you treat the ASL as a second stop line Junkyard. Hopefully they will only fine those who deliberately roll into them (which will cover most drivers)

If you can’t stop safely before the stop line you’re clearly doing something wrong. If lights went straight from green to red then maybe fair enough, fortunately we have that amber light in-between so really there is no excuse.

Money-creating idea, a bit like the box-junctions lights.

If it also impacts m/c’s I’m glad I’m no longer commuting on one.

your a driver, your under LICENCE, you do not have a god given right to drive.

If your driving according to the law you have nothing to worry about.

The war on motorists continues.

Somewhat melodramatic….

The highway code is pretty clear on the matter see rules 175, 176 and 178.

https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-to-203/road-junctions-170-to-183

haha you’re funny

so completely ignore them then?

do you mean box junction cameras? Yeah coz I mean WTF is the point of box junctions? oh hang on A box junction is a road traffic control measure designed to prevent congestion and gridlock at junctions. so a really good idea then? Wish they had a camera on the one near my house, idiots on the main road block the junction, lights change no-one from the cross road can go anywhere lights change again 🙄 idiots.

The war on motorists continues.no hora the war on the shit driver continues puts in a half hearted appearance

if your bumper is hanging over the line and you get fined you have my sympathies, no leeway with a camera, but the amount of people who just don’t give a fig about road markings is pretty bad. In heavy traffic everything get’s ignored, pedestrian crossings are blocked, box junctions, ASLs it’s like drivers have agreed that all rules are off during rush hour.

Then there are the bus lane cameras. In some parts of Manchester seeing a regular bus on a route is an enigma- yet most of them now are covered by CCTV/fines in rush hour. Half the road space but don’t utilise, thats joined-up thinking for you 🙄

true but they normally do have lights to accompany them and a certain junction-y appearance. Pretty sure you’re not supposed to block junctions without yellow markings either, and busy side streets for that matter. Unthinkingly driving 6″ from the guy in front is stupid even if it is at 3mph, but i know a lot of people do it, I have in the past, you can’t complain about getting pulled up for it.

Read the highway code, you can enter them as long as your exit is clear, otherwise they’d have to say no right turns (or stop oncoming trafic).

Maybe because the busses get to where they’re going rather than sitting in traffic?

Traffic enforcement has nothing to do with what’s needed, but what’s easy. If this follows the speed camera policy then pretty soon we’ll be hearing that “two thirds of accidents are caused by encroaching on an ASL”.

(Seeing as ASL rules are so vital to road safety, they’ll also be looking to fine cyclists who enter them through the solid line, yes..? 😉 )

The user group totally forgotten here is motorcyclists. What would the cyclists here prefer them to do when they filter to the front? (And bear in mind you might be behind them when they do.)

you mean we get to decide? awesome. OK you can filter to the front but then you have to get off and do a little dance before you can enter the ASL?

personally I dunno about motorbikes in bus lanes/asls, seems reasonable for them to use them i guess, but no idea what the arguments against are.

If you can’t stop safely before the stop line you’re clearly doing something wrong. If lights went straight from green to red then maybe fair enough, fortunately we have that amber light in-between so really there is no excuse.

You have to decide to stop or continue during that amber…I can make that decision. But then they add another stop line five metres further away. Where pre-ASL it would have been fine to continue through on amber, now you’d be cheeky and cutting the red very close on the second stop line. Its not an offence to cross the first stop line on amber and wait at the second line if it would have been unsafe to attempt to stop at the first, so hopefully they will just prosecute those who deliberately stop in the box through laziness/ignorance.

how do red light cameras work? do they go off just because you are infront of a line, or do they go off if you drive past the line?

IS there a trigger in the road surface that sets off the camera?

Yes the police should be more obvious and pull up drivers using phones etc, the reality is it is not going to happen. So the more drivers are hit for breaking the law the better. Too many drivers think they have a god given right to use the road. Anything that makes them think is good. I am still amazed by the number of drivers who whinge when they are caught speeding. 90% of the time if they had been looking where they were going they would have seen the bright yellow camera or the big transit parked by the side of the road, or more crucially if they had bothered to look at the dial on the dashboard that tells them how fast they are going they wouldn’t have to worry!!!!!!

As for the crap about having to many places to look and concentrating on the speedo not the road, highway code is quite clear, drive according to the conditions. If you can’t check the speed your traveling at because there is too much going on around you, maybe, just maybe you should think about going SLOWER!!!!!

the speed limit is a LIMIT!!!!

Maybe there should be compulsary tacho’s/blackboxes in all cars?

Amber light means accelerate.

Traffic lights would be better if they got rid of Amber’s completely and made the green lights come on 3seconds before the green light on the opposing side of the junction switched to red.

Everyone would then be far more circumspect at them.