(stealth nudge) – I’ve an S-works disc SL6 in the classifieds at the minute for £4K

It’s their top of the range frameset with their seatpost, headset & ceramic BB, and even with a set of disc wheels at 1420g & a DA build, I think the weight is coming in around 7.5kg

maybe knock 100 or 200g off by changing the chainset

there’s not a lot in stock anywhere

You ain’t kidding. I’ve heard some incredible numbers from mates still in the trade/ex bosses…..for q1/q2 2020.

They can’t get/build bikes fast enough

Top end is £10,799.00

The only reason £10k bikes exist is to make spending £5k on a bike seem reasonable.

My Scott CR1 SL build was 7.5kg with ultegra, Ritchey bars and stem, and superstar wheels.
£1300, I think.
I cracked the frame at the chain stay, from either being too fat, bunny hopping too much, or crashing too often.
Even though 7.5 isn’t featherweight, it felt incredibly light, I could straight arm lift it by the seat post.
I replaced with Vitus Di2 disc at 8.5kg or more. Feels like a tank. Love it though.

I did 210km on my propel yesterday .

Was still getting PRs on it after 160kms.

Ride segments previously done on my ultegra/Mavic ksyrium giant OCR and/or my Kona touring bike.

Modern bikes are great.

Because roadies have deeper pockets than mtbers

OP.
The general census is that aero trumps weight unless you only climb big mountain passes.

My canyon ultimate sl (Not the top of the the range version of the frame) weighed 7.2 kg including pedals, and cost me 2k in 2015. It was of course rim brakes.

My giant tcr advanced pro 0 with disks, deep carbon wheels, di2 etc costs over twice that and weighs closer to 8kg. Very few disk braked bikes come in at 6.8 kg, regardless of price. Remember pro bikes use tubs. I reckon you could count on 1 hand the number of disk braked bikes from the top manufacturers that come under 6.8kg once you have fitted pedals.

Tbh loads of pros bikes weigh over 7kg, and thats with tubs and top of the range kit.

Did you consider the propel @tpbiker?
Thinking of buying a pure road bike for the first time in my life and would be inclined to go for an aero frame. If you’re spending footflaps money, though, it has to be a long term purchase. Just wonder if the look of stuff like the propel or a systemsix wears off after a while and would seem very dated, whereas something like a tcr is more classic and will always look great.

Modern road “race” bikes seem to be going more aero, taking bigger tyres and (probably as a result) getting more comfy.

Are “aero” and “endurance” bikes becoming more nichey as a result?

Cambs is basically like my old stomping grounds of Herts, but even less hilly – so I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you probably don’t require a 6.8kg bike OP.

My.last road bike was 15 years old .

When I look back at the parts I changed I changed the wheels and the groupset(3 times as they wore out)

The rest was stock.

I guess the biggest issue is if I crash in 10 years time a wing profile bar might be a tougher find than a round 31.8

what I should really have bought is a defy

Have you seen the stem on the new one though?

*winces*

I can be guilty of obsessing over bike weight but it really does make very little difference and even scientifically on mountainous climbs a KG doesn’t make that much difference.
I changed frame sets a few months back from a alloy frame with full carbon fork to a steel frame and steel fork. I added 1.2KG with all the other parts remaining the same (total weight up from 6.6 to 7.8).
It is clearly noticeable when I pick it up as humans can perceive very minor changes in weight but when riding that 1KG makes no perceivable difference.

Top end is £10,799.00
Cheapest is £1,699.00

Take the mean and you get £6249

So I was actually a bit low at £5k….

OMG

words fail me

basic arithmetic fail

To be pedantic thats the mean as you have only used the lowest and highest in the range. To get the true mean you’d need to look at all the models in the range, and I can guarantee if you did the mean would be far far less than 5k!

Well if we’re going to be pedantic… The range (to use the mathematical definition of the word) of bike costs is £1699 to £10,799. So ‘mid-range’ could plausibly be in the middle of that range?

Informally, £5k for a bike is definitely not ‘mid-range’ in any common parlance. Pull yourself together footflaps.

However, I get the impression this isn’t the case

Welcome to disc brakes.

Mechanical Dura Ace, caliper brakes, nice frame (Giant TCR Advanced SL), decent wheels, will get you there easily. My Defy SL with the above and deep section carbon rims is 7.2. The last savings are in the wheels and maybe a lighter carbon saddle.

Honestly the difference is half a water bottle. You won’t notice the weight, but you will notice a stiff bike (hello CR1) and poor geometry.

And 5k would be mid-range – pro-spec frame and Dura Ace with some cost cutting in the wheels. But it is hard to find manual Dura Ace and non-disk on a pro frame now.

Should take the median 😉

As TiRed says, I’d be more concerned about stiffness and position than weight. A few extra grams going into efficiency or producing a vibration-damping frame is more important overall than all-out lightweight.

14 models, Tredz prices are

Yep, but that’s not the entire range. In fact it entirely misses out the speedster series which is their entry level model. Judging by This, there are in fact around 30 Scott road bikes. And given I’m bored I just calculated the ‘average’ price when you look at all bikes across their entire road range, is actually less than 3k. Which I think is much closer to what most folks would consider ‘mid range’..

Do trek really not have any road bikes <£1699 anymore?