- "5000" lumen light….
Similar claimed output from lights like this. Fairly obvious that it’ll be nowhere near those figures but even so I’d be interested to see just how bright they are and how usable the spread of light is.Posted 4 years agoneninjaMember
Painey – there are 2 things I would watch for with that light you linked to on Amazon.
Please never over-charger or over-discharge the 18650 batteries, which means when the brightness of the flashlight is going down clearly but not totally dark, it is the time to charge it, or the battery will be over-discharged and it will be broken or short-circuit when you charge it the next time.
Would that suggest that there is no protection circuit to protect from over charging or discharging of the cells. Li-ion cells really don’t like being discharged below 3v – it kills them. That would suggest the user must watch for when the light dims and turn it off or kill the cells. There are other cheap Chinese lights that offer some protection so I’d look elsewhere.
I’d also wonder about heat management of the emitters with 4 XMLs in a fairly small light head. If they have no protection against over heating the led’s will simply get less and less bright until they die.
There are better cheap lights out there than that one.Posted 4 years ago
There some beam shot here. You’ll need to be a mtbr member to see them & the shots are too cluttered to make a great comparison, other than there a lot spread but not huge increases in overall output.
I have one, as I couldn’t resist one for £25. I can’t tell you what the beam is like as I’ve simply used it to ride (with another light) & not sat in a field playing with the beam – very bright is all I’d say.
I have quickly compared it side by side with one Neninja’s old Inton dual XML (the MS880 is similar) & that had the edge on the X2 output wise, but is a huge light/reflectors & cost £125 (£150 for a MS880?)
It’s a small unit, so I’d say a great head light, the head unit being half the height of my single XML light (though the Luminator and gloworm I’ve seen quickly, were a lot smaller). My scales report it as 97g including mount, my old MTB Batteries V1 XML (with a Electron handlebar mount) weighs in at 140g. Though I’d want to use a different mounting to attach it to my helmet (not seen a good way yet), as mounting it on the ’normal’ MS helmet mount will lift it away from the helmet and lose the point of the low profilePosted 4 years ago
Ordered one of these yesterday as a replacement for my very aged P7 DX torch – been having some neck problems so going to run it as a head torch with batteries in camelback to reduce helmet wobbling mass.
And I’ve got a Lumicycle XPG on the bars which is made of solid tufftanium and lasts 200 hours on full power, so no great loss if the new one dies mid-ride.
Kevin1911 – email MTBBatteries and they’ll sort you out. I got some much netter quality cells and charger for my P7 torch from them, which have lasted years.Posted 4 years ago
Kevin, try contacting MTB batteries not the cheapest but great products. My longest serving battery is one he supplied -3 or 4 years old now. Also his aftersale support is legendary.
I’m use an old MS-828 battery with mine, as my supplied battery was very poor, so any MS connector should work.
EDIT: See that ^^^ he edit that in after I started posting 😳 though you can never have too many recommendationsPosted 4 years agomolgripsSubscriber
I’m tempted – I have a stash of quality 7.2V batteries from Lupine days, so I need 7.2V lights I can attach to them. Most are 14.4 nowadays it seems.
Having said that, I could also do with something to run with, tha tmight be too big for head mounting without a helmet.Posted 4 years ago
I took some rough and ready beam shots for a mate which you can find ->>> http://www.thetestteam.cc/component/kunena/kit-review-advice/263-cheapo-chinese-lights-for-night-ridingPosted 4 years ago
Mine arrived today, the under-the-desk test = bright! Some colleagues going home with arc eye tonight! 😉
As for waterproofing, I’ve previously stretched a standard party balloon over the battery pack and zip-tied the nozzle round the lead. Worked a treat, and fits back in the battery pack.
Mine was ordered Monday to arrive yesterday from these UK guys.Posted 4 years agohainmanMember
Isnt £51 for a battery pretty steep??im needing a battery for my light but for that price i’d rather buy a whole light system for that,Posted 4 years ago
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2013-model-Fluxient-XM-L-U2-1100-lumen-Race-with-helmet-mount-and-bar-mount-/290981345342?pt=UK_SportGoods_CyclAcces_RL&hash=item43bfd6f83ePosted 4 years ago
Richpips, who did you order it from, to get that quick a delivery time? M8’s light look to have broken, and he was impressed by mine, so…
(mine took just over two week to arrive and had a rubbish battery, so would prefer not to use them again)superfliMember
I gave mine a quick comparison test in the back garden last night:
My old MJ836:
Four4th Exodus 1200lm (my helmet light):
SolarStorm/FandyFire, MJ836, Exodus
The SolarStorm has a tighter beam than I would like, my MJ836 is wider. It is however a lot brighter than the other 2, so prob around 1500-1600lm in comparison. Will be riding with it next Wed eve to see how it is on the bars. I’m using my Samsung battery that I bought to run the MJ836 on, so not too fussed about the one that came with it (wifes got that now 🙂 ).Posted 4 years ago
HEllo chaps, sorry for the resurrection but i thought an update would do nicely.
I had my first ride out yesterday with the Solarstorms, and after bodging a bracket on the helmet (hazard tape and cardboard), they sat quite nicley where my old MS sit.
My old MS were quoted at 900lumen, but most seem to think they were around the 800 mark, but nonetheless i found them powerful enough on the tight twisty stuff i like to ride, true some of the faster descent could have done with a bit more power and throw but i got on OK.
These new lights having 3 modes – my old MS seemed to be somewhere between low and Mid in terms of brightness, and for most riding i was more than happy to go round on low. The High setting was treeeemedous. Plenty of throw and not too “spotty”. The ride last night was a shade under 2hrs, and with a mix of mid, low and the occasional high i came back with 2 green lights still showing (so i’ve obviously not got a duff battery).
Anyway, short summary, for £25 they are brilliant. I’d still go with around 2000 lumen on high, but nothing more. Good light as far as im concerned and more than plenty for most riding.
SuiPosted 4 years ago
Used mine for the first time last night too, and as a helmet light. I cut down the frankly enormous helmet mount that came with the light to just use the middle D-shaped bit and the rubber band to attach it to a cross-member on my helmet (if that makes sense).
The light has a definite spot with a lighter ring round, so perfect as a helmet light. On full, its slightly brighter than my Lumicycle XPG on boost, so I’d concur with around 2000 lumens.
I ran it on full for 1.5 hours and it started to fade a bit by the end, and showed 1 light on the power indicator. I’ll give it a go on medium (which is plenty – others were complaining about shadows) next time and see how long that lasts.
I just need to play with helmet mounts now – its a bit high off the top of my helmet and prone to tree-whacking. I’ll have to make something to mount nearer the front – however it gets bloody hot so need to insulate it from the helmet a bit (ie not metal mount) or my lid will melt!Posted 4 years ago
now that’s odd, becuase mine was stone cold when i finished my ride which i was surprised about, but then maybe that’s due to running in on low to mid most of the time. Must admit i quite like it a bit more spot as opposed to flood, it reminds me i’m actually riding in the dark! 😀Posted 4 years agorichmtbSubscriber
So I got mine yesterday.
Not used in anger yet but its plenty bright.
Medium is a good bit brighter than a Hope HID light that I’ve had for a while.
As for the mount well its a bit basic but fine for handlebar mounting using the rubber band. However the mount is just attached by a single screw so its pretty easy to just remove the screw and then attach whatever mount you want.
I had an old Cateye doubleshot that although is well past it had a pretty decent helmet mount so I am using that for the new light.
A Hope mount from a Hope Vision 1 also fitted fine and made for a better handlebar mount.Posted 4 years ago
No, its not 2000 lumens and would NEVER ever be!
It’ll be around 1000 at best.
The old MJ-836 used an older P7 which is more floody and less efficient, and at best was probably giving you around 500, maybe 600 absolute max.
Remember, its not always about the lumens, its about how they are projected.
The XM-L has more of a spot than the quite floody P7.
If someone can find the current draw, you will be able to work out roughly the output is.Posted 4 years agovan cough coughMember
I have bought loads of led lights over last few years. So cheap now… unless you are buying from the UK…
I have the one in the first post. It’s a great light.
I also just bought the 5 x cree t6 trustfire with 10000mah battery.. i looked into it on high when i got it.. it was like being on mushrooms for much time after.Posted 4 years ago
Lightman, what’s your thinking behind buying that light?
I can see from the beam shot it does look wider than my solarstorm and none of the others on sale give a beamshot to compare.
Had a quick play with my torches in the back garden after last nights night ride, the Solarstorm is definitely still a round central spot, that is wider/bigger, brighter with a better spread round the central spot than my old single XML unit.Posted 4 years ago
It’s been great so far, and for £25 I’m not complaining & would recommend it over the single XML units.
Well, I’ve got plenty single XM-L flashlights I use for biking, and while they all do the job, the XM-L needs something to help spread the beam just a bit more.Posted 4 years ago
So with the aspherical lens, it’ll give more flood than just a glass lens.
Quite how much of a difference, Im not to sure, as long as it doesn’t affect the throw too much, I’ll be happy.
I might play about a bit and replace one side with just a glass lens and see what thats like.simonlovell999Member
Probably a stupid question. I have ordered one of the solar storms and was looking to double battery life. Would a xy connector work to use another battery pack at same time and what to do about waterproofing the battery pack.
Batteries from torchy or candbseen, can’t afford mtbbattery.
ThanksPosted 4 years ago
If torchy’s are anything like the better MS units (which I’d imagine they are), then they’re basically plastic dipped, which are pretty damned good at keeping water out.
Do you really need double the battery life?
The lower setting are still damned bright, and unless you doing techie stuff all ride, you don’t need it on full beam.
If that the case another option is to buy a 6600mAh battery, torchy sell them…
The battery connector option is way past my electric knowledge (which isn’t a lot), can’t see if you were out that long ,that 2minutes to swap batteries would be a major issue..
Otherwise waterproofing can be as simple as wrapping in a plastic bag and ziptying it tight.. or self amalgamation tape could probably work pretty well too, or plastic dipping…
EDIT: Torch is listing a torch with an 8800mAH battery, you could approach him and see if he’ll sell one separately.. or search around for onePosted 4 years ago
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