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  • 5 year old lab slowing down
  • mdavids
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    Well actually she’s 5 and a half, I guess my first question is whether this is too young for my black lab to be getting noticeably slower on her walks?
    I don’t feel we are over-walking her, she’s out 3 or 4 times but only 1 of those is either a Frisbee session at a very nearby park or a longish walk – couple of mile maybe.
    She still flies round after the Frisbee but on the walk back she just seems like a much older dog. There’s no limp while walking but I’ve noticed a bit of stiffness when she gets up after a lie down.
    I’m guessing arthritis and we’ll be getting her checked out, maybe this is normal for her age?

    Futureboy77
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    Admittedly my dogs aren’t labs, but I’d be concerned about a dog slowing down/showing stiffness at that young an age (my two are the same age as yours).

    I’d be off to the Vet for a check up.

    Onzadog
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    Yep, 5 is too early. Worth getting things checked out. Is she jumping after the frisbee or just chasing after it? If jumping, maybe slow that down a bit. Maybe even drop it to a couple if times a week.

    mdavids
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    Yeah she jumps if I throw it too high so I try and keep it at a level where she doesn’t have to. She loves to catch it though, I think it must trigger the retrieval instinct. I’ve been taking it much easier recently and after a few days off she speeds up again but it doesn’t seem to take much to wear her out again.

    db
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    Is this in the recent heat? Our 2 year old collie mix can’t cope this the heat and slows right down. (We obviously try and avoid it being too hot for her)

    myti
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    3 or 4 times a day? Sounds like maybe too much in these temperatures

    phil5556
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    3 or 4 times a day? Sounds like maybe too much in these temperatures

    It might just be the heat, 5 doesn’t seem that old to be slowing down. It’s not quite as hot up here as it has been but last couple of weeks when it’s been really hot we don’t take our cocker out until late in the evening, it at all. He gets properly hot just mooching about in the garden. Although the heat doesn’t seem to ever slow him down!

    dovebiker
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    Worth getting it checked over, could be arthritis or joint problems. Our previous Lab lived to 13 but it wasn’t until she reached 11 that she noticeably started slowing / lost interest in ball games etc.

    Onzadog
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    How is her weight and what do you feed her?

    ctk
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    Don’t go straight to the vet. Go a bit easier & avoid the heat & see how she goes.

    paulneenan76
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    Sounds odd. I’d also add that 4 lots per day, particularly in the current temps, is a bit much. My boy is 11 this year and still has moments of mental energy, though he needs more rest now. I’d suggest 2 good walks a day, checkover at the vet and keep an eye on food and water consumption.

    mdavids
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    Her weight is spot on I think, nice and lean and not carrying the typical labrador excess. Just fed on dry food and plenty of treats, she’s really sensitive to any change of diet, based on the end result.
    Most of her walks are literally just a very short walk to the park so she can go to the toilet as she hates going in the garden.
    The extra heat is a good shout, interesting to hear others are noticing it affecting their dogs so maybe this is a big part of the issue.

    grim168
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    We’ve a chocolate who turned 10 in april. Last 12 months hes slowed down considerably. Heat has always affected him. Weight is spot on. What colour is yours? Golden seem to be less nuts than black and chocolate. At 5 ours was still tear arseing round gisburn. Last year was the first year he just watched the swallows rather than chase them round. I almost cried. Why do dogs get old so fast…..

    Drac
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    Careful with the frisbee it’s not just the jumping the sprinting and sudden stopping is bad vet their legs especially on heavier dogs. Other thing with labs is hip displacement it can cause discomfort. Can’t comment on the heat as we lost the sun over a week ago.

    Onzadog
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    Have you considered raw feeding? A lot of people say they see a dramatic change in their dogs when raw feeding.

    She might tolerate a slow transition.

    Futureboy77
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    Have you considered raw feeding? A lot of people say they see a dramatic change in their dogs when raw feeding.

    She might tolerate a slow transition

    Big advocate for this. Both of mine are raw fed. When you look into what is in most commercial dog food, it ain’t great.

    Added bonus is tiny hard poop!

    epicsteve
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    Hopefully it’s just the heat. My lab is 6 and not showing any signs of slowing down, however he’s definitely not keen when it’s hot – so have to pick my routes carefully to stay under tree cover mostly and also reduce the length of the walks.

    moonsaballoon
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    My lab springer x is 8 and whilst she’s still nuts on her walks she’s definitely slowed down a bit recently but I think it’s a couple of things . She’s never been great in the heat and runs round the same if it’s 10 degrees or 30 degrees . The other thing is lockdown previously she would get a few days at home on her own during the week and the odd day without a walk whereas at the moment there is always someone around to throw a ball and she’s getting decent walks everyday as the kids are loving getting out to the woods with her .

    jolmes
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    Big advocate for this. Both of mine are raw fed. When you look into what is in most commercial dog food, it ain’t great.

    Added bonus is tiny hard poop!

    Also backing this, big change in our Old English on raw food, loads of tummy issues literally gone once she’d made the change to raw food. Got her energy back, tiny poos that don’t stink and just a happier dog.

    She hates the heat though and will slow right down when its warm. She also had elbow displacia as a puppy which sorted itself out as she grew but were told it could come back as arthritis as an older dog, it came back when she was around 4 and we put her on Lintbells YuMove (Glucosamine) with the vets approval and it appears to have sorted her right out.

    Maybe try a few lead walks without the frisbee and not in the heat, see if she improves.

    myti
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    I’d knock the Frisbee on the head now. I used to do loads of ball throwing for my extremely high energy lab and now she has bad arthritis in her elbows and has medication for it.

    dashed
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    Sorry – long post, but a subject close to my heart!

    I grew up with labs and have had them myself for the last 15 years or so. I’ve got an 8 year old lab who will happily come with me on a 10-15km run, but we have been going out very early in the hot weather and around water so they can get a good swim. I’ve also got a 3 year old with elbow dysplasia who will also do similar runs with me but has had quite a bit of treatment – see below!

    5 is absolutely too young to be slowing down and if she’s showing signs of stiffness then you should get her checked. Dogs are very good at not showing pain, so if you’re seeing stiffness then it probably means there’s something underlying. Stiffness isn’t related to hot weather.

    First steps:
    1. Get her insured (PetPlan are pricey but the vets generally say they are the least likely to quibble). If it’s worst case then there are definitely things you can do but it can get pricey.
    2. See your local vet and get a referral to a specialist if any doubts.

    I’m not sure where in the UK you are but Andy at Greenside Vets in the Borders does some brilliant stem cell and rehab work and I would highly recommend after seeing the changes he’s brought to our young dog – from possibly having to be put down to being able to do a 15k run or a full day as a working dog. It’s not a miracle cure, but it’s been very effective for us. She needs a stem cell top up every 18 months or so but well worth the trip up from Manchester for the improvement in her quality of life.

    All of the above is definitely worst case but the sooner you get on top of these things the better. It might turn out to be something like a soft tissue injury and a bit of lead rest sorts but if it is something more serious like dysplacia (which labs are prone to) then there are things you can do to significantly improve quality of life and delay the inevitable arthritis that comes with it. PM me if you want any more info now or later – I’ve done quite a lot of research into this over the last few years!

    chestrockwell
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    Our Lab is 7 and I wouldn’t say she’s slowed down but when younger she just wanted to charge around chasing balls where as these days she sometimes prefers to potter about sniffing. She still loves running and swimming but is better at letting us know what she’s in the mood for.

    mdavids
    Free Member

    Thanks everyone, lots of really useful replies. I’ll definitely be getting her checked out and stopping the frisbee for a while – she’ll be really disappointed. I’ll also try her on some different food.

    Her other great love is swimming, would I be right in thinking this is really good for her as she can get good exercise without putting pressure on her joints?

    dashed
    Free Member

    Swimming should be fine – low impact and usually recommended as a part of rehab (in the hydrotherapy form but it’s just a posh pond!).

    Rockape63
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    I’d do a lot of things differently with my lab springer who is approaching 13 years old in Sept. I’d definitely have reduced the ball throwing and not taken him on mtb rides.

    Of course he loved it all, but his legs are in a bad way now, despite metacam and yu move.

    irc
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    First steps:
    1. Get her insured (PetPlan are pricey but the vets generally say they are the least likely to quibble). If it’s worst case then there are definitely things you can do but it can get pricey.
    2. See your local vet and get a referral to a specialist if any doubts.

    Check small print for pre-existing claims exclusions. If you insure her and go to the vet next week or next month the company may say it is an pre-existing condition.

    Most pet insurance policies don’t cover pre-existing conditions. If we think your customer knew about the condition when they took out the policy, we might agree that it’s reasonable for you to reject the claim.

    If you’ve rejected a claim because of pre-existing symptoms, we’ll check whether this exclusion was clearly explained in the policy document. We’ll decide whether the customer knew about any symptoms that could lead to a condition being claimed for in the future.
    Conditions that first became apparent soon after the policy was taken out

    A customer might take their pet to a vet with signs of a condition in the first few days after a policy starts. You may reject a later claim for that condition, saying the customer was already aware of it.

    https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/businesses/complaints-deal/insurance/pet-insurance

    Del
    Full Member

    Drac ( and others ) make some good points wrt frisbee. Also recommend yumove as others suggest. Put my 13 year old spaniel on it a few weeks ago and it was like flicking a switch – she’s much brighter and happier on a walk.

    dashed
    Free Member

    Check small print for pre-existing claims exclusions. If you insure her and go to the vet next week or next month the company may say it is an pre-existing condition.

    There’s usually a “cooling off period” of a few weeks after taking out the policy before you can claim or it’s deemed to have been pre-existing.

    doomanic
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    Yet another vote for raw feeding here. Our Lab/Collie/Lurcher/who-knows-what was very sensitive to changes in her dry food. Tried raw on the recommendation of a friend and she’s happier, looks healthier and clean up is a much easier job these days.
    We supplement the minced chicken with veg off cuts and leftovers, she loves broccoli, and she gets a least 1 raw marrowbone a week.
    Treats are kept to minimum, but are usually just cheap dog biscuits.

    paulneenan76
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    Be careful of the heat on the ground in the warmer periods. A simple test: put your hand on the ground, and if you can’t keep it there for short period of time, it’s too hot for your dog to walk on.

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