Thanks for the ideas so far. I’m busy googling but struggling to find some of them – e.g. DHB, Santini, Altura and Madison all draw a blank. To re-iterate, I’m looking for something without a bib.
I hate to say this – I know you mentioned it in your original post – but knee-warmers do the job and have the advantage of being available in different weights, plus if you get WKS – Warm Knee Syndrome – you can always remove them. Mavic and Castelli both work for me, bad experiences with Endura ones going prematurely baggy in the past.
I was going to mention the 7-Mesh ones, but it’s been done. Other than that, there are lots of trail running options around – Montane from memory, I think Mammut do some and others – but the seaming and fabrics may not be optimal for cycling use.
I suspect a lot of the ones you’re drawing a blank on are bibs because people read the title, skim the actual post and then do the STW thing of recommending what they use. Knee-warmers in my case, but at least I bothered to read the post properly 😉