Got a Scandal and a Solaris. The Solaris replaced the Scandal (althought i still have it) as my rigid bike. Both frames are nice to ride. The Scandal has slightly better tyre clearance but i prefer the look of the Solaris. Cant say the Cotic is a massively better ride than the Scandal but i really like the feel of the steel frame and how the Cotic looks. Choice for me would come down to looks and budget.Posted 4 years agoahwilesSubscriber
High latitude here, it’s ace.
if i had a bit more money, maybe i’d have bought a solaris, they’re ace too.
if i had a bit less money, i’d have bought in scandal, or an inbred, guess what, they’re ace too.
i couldn’t comment about the pipedream, but that looks ace.
i doubt you’ll get a ‘bad’ bike, that’s a good list.Posted 4 years agoYoKaiserSubscriber
I’ve a Scandal and its been great, I had ordered a Solaris but couldn’t get one so went for the Scandal and I’ve no regrets. I’d agree with IA, I’d be inclined to put more ££ into the wheelset/forks and a dropper post. For your shortlist though you could add the Singular Buzzard and Swift and the new Dialled 29erPosted 4 years agoahwilesSubscriber
si_progressivebikes – Member
“Get an on-one, spend the money saved on nice wheels, you’ll notice it more”
How so? Presuming wheels were of a reasonable standard i think the difference between the cotic and on one would be significant. IMO buy the Solaris
i think the idea is that bigger wheels naturally flex more, and will tend to be heavier, both things we tend to try and avoid.
there’ll be something like 300grams difference between an inbred and a solaris, which i doubt anyone could notice.
spending an extra £300 on the frame saves 300g, which you may not notice (i know i definitely wouldn’t).
spending an extra £300 on the wheels may even open up the door into a world of carbon rims.
or at least that’s the idea – i think…Posted 4 years agoIAMember
In my entirely unscientific experience, the difference between average and nice wheels on a 29er is far more noticeable than on 26. In terms of how the bike feels to ride (how nimble) and how stiff they are.
However, if an inbred rides like mince and a solaris is amazing, clearly spend the money on the frame.
However, plenty folk like on-ones (indeed the OP does!) so they’re probably fine?Posted 4 years ago
SpongingMachine, I’d be interested in how you get on with the Unit. I’ve got a stock build (singlespeed, rigid) and much as I enjoy every ride, it’s not a delicate machine. It’s a bit of a plough in fact. Is that just 29ers?
Hard to say as it’s the first 29er I’ve ridden. I rode it for the first time today and have to say that it felt slightly less nimble than the Kona 120 it’s replaced. I think that’s mostly to do with the 800mm bar I’ve stuck on there. I’m gonna cut it down tomorrow. I’ll let you know.Posted 4 years ago
Sponging -Machine – bit stalkerish, but do you live in Plymouth? I overtook a white car with a kona Unit with super wide bars on yesterday between 4.30 and 5pm on the a38 just past March Mills roundabout….
it caught my attention as the bike was running gears and I wondered how you’ve a unit with a mech hanger???
Sorry for weirdness!Posted 4 years ago
That was me. Well spotted. Went for a quick roll around Cann to give it a test.
Kona offer a geared dropout for the Unit. Cost me £25, which seemed a lot but I suppose isn’t much more than a regular mech hanger. The sliding dropouts are bolted in, so it’s really easy to change over. Otherwise, the Unit comes with all the cable stops you need to run it geared.
I got it from Dartmoor Cycles. It took them about 3 days to get it from Geneva.
The white paint job on my Mondeo’s pretty nasty though. Getting swapped for one in Panther Black next week. Meow!Posted 4 years ago
I can imagine one day I might convert my Unit to geared, but not sure why I’d buy a Unit frame and add gears from new. Aren’t there other bikes in the Kona range that are basically geared Units? If you’re buying a Unit because you think you may one day fancy a go at single-speeding, just bite the bullet and get one with one gear only 😀Posted 4 years ago
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