Only just seen this thread again. Feel I need to point out that my ‘compromised’ comment before was very firmly tongue in cheek!?! I’m the only thing ‘compromised’ on my Jones. And Tim you’ll be pleased to hear I’ve got the original rear matching wheel now with Pauls hub and 18 tooth WI!

..brilliantly crazy numbers.

Like the look of the new bike a lot, a good option to have. Possibly a bit ‘big’ for what I do with my steel Jones but interested enough for a test ride.

I wonder if there will be a new version of the steel diamond frame jones?
Would the 67.5 head angle + 76mm offset fork work on the standard 29er?
john_l. I would love to see a picture of your bike as we are a similar height, short cranks, stem length/rise, layback post?

The chainstay length looks very long, but with this obsession with the shortest stays, does it really matter?

🙂

“I didn’t stop because the light was red. I stopped because I wanted to stop…”

DrP

I’m 5’7″, 30″ in side leg. I couldn’t get on with mine. I couldn’t get the bars low enough with the height of the truss forks, so long gone. It’s a fab ride but it wasn’t for me. Back to a Karate Monkey, sorted….

More news on Dirt Rag, 19″ stays!

I got 400mm “reach” dimension on Bikecad.
Also didn’t get 71deg seat angle. Not in true sense.
Top of seat tube is at that angle but it’s offset forward.

So for those with an understanding of how the geometry all comes together… if the front end is higher through a longer fork and headtube will that, to some extent, negate the effect of the longer chainstay with respect to how easy it is to lift the front?

Quite excited to have a ride on this. Be interesting to see how it compares to the spaceframe.

…my big worry it is rides like a Krampus

When I first got my Krampus I loved it, so stable, comfortable and great fun, big tire footprint gave it confidence, but then I went back to my Steel Diamond and realised I had most of this plus could chuck it around so much more easily

I stopped riding the Krampus and sold it shortly afterwards

When I got the Diamond I could so much convincing on the 23″ top tube, I’m 6’4″ with a 35″ inseam, but the proof was in the pudding, rode it, loved it never looked back

This is all without riding the Plus but I fear it might have lost it “chuckable” factor with that longer wheelbase, it will be super stable but maybe not the fun of the shorter wheelbase

I run a Knard in the front of the truss and P35 rims, Carbon front and alloy rear, have tried a Rabbit hole in the front but didn’t seem to make a huge difference over the 35mm rim

Is the longer wheelbase aimed more stable “off-road” tourer, I have watched the footage of Jeff chucking it round corners but I also know what a skilled rider Jeff is….

Interestingly/annoyingly it seems the front axle is 142 x 15 according to Jeff’s fb. Appreciate that compromise isn’t really in Jeff’s vocab but it seems bizarre to go with a new axle standard, especially given that current owners won’t be able to move existing front wheels across.

I guess if you/we can afford a Jones then you/we can afford a 3rd wheel for the bike and swap over when needed.

I like the Jones headset at the bottom of that interview. Don’t like the two top haves i’m using at the moment. Dedicated Jones headset designed for a truss, nice.

We’ll I’ve had the original cane creek headset in mine for 5 years now, no problems.

Same here

Yours? How’s it ride?

That frame somehow manages to make a 29+ tyre look small!

She’s BIG! I’ll post anther pic in a min showing the difference between my Diamond/Space and the 29+ front ends. (ignore the garden though)

This is the demo bike about to go on tour of the Jones dealers in the UK.

I “might” get a ride before it leaves the shed :O)

Matthew Bird had just left my shed. He rides a Jones :O)

Plenty of sparrows fly in and need a hand leaving.

No Bird bike though.