27.5+ 2.8 tyres – anything with a sidewall not made of cheese?
I’m now running Surly DW 3.0 27+ front and rear on my bike. These differ from the 29+ in that they are made with a softer compound.
The sidewall feels much beefier and has a ‘damped’ feel quite different from the Schwalbe NN it replaced.
There’s probably a small rolling resistance penalty to pay, but the grip tradeoff is well worth it imo. The first plus tyre I’ve ridden with proper rubber and it grips most excellently in mixed conditions. On damp rock and roots it’s in a different league to the NN.
In dry conditions, I really rate the NN though, and although the sidewall feels paper thin, I’ve found the snakeskin version plenty tough enough.Posted 9 months ago
That DHR II is a monster! Mate has the DHF and yep grips like nothing else. Could easily be used on a small tractor. For BPW in a couple of weeks, I’m going to go with another Rekon I think (to replace the NN). I’m not sure I need any more grip. Certainly happy not to add more weight.Posted 9 months ago
Is that “how much!” or “How much?”
If the latter, then I’ve put it up for £60 inc delivery on the classifieds (at least £10 cheaper than I’ve found online) but I would be open to reasonable offers. I’m not desperate to get rid of it but if I can get a reasonable amount back for it and someone save some money compared to buying it from a store then everyone’s a winner.
It’s not even been opened.Posted 9 months ago
They’re on! Sidewalls feel every but as sturdy as the 29×2.3 Minions but I’m quite surprised how much smaller diameter they are overall. Absolutely love the way they ride – so confidence inspiring and just masses and masses of grip. Not noticeably more draggy on the short rides I’ve done so far but I’m going to try them out at the Aston Hill Pedalhounds race this weekend which will be interesting. Still need to play around with pressures as not convinced my JoeBlow Booster gauge us accurate to low psi. It said my 29s were at 19/20 and these are at 15/16. Will invest in a digital gauge I think.
Couple of pics and yes, the gardener does need a slap!
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Gotama – Member
Lovely looking bike??
How much difference is there in the outer diameter do you think there is between the plus and the 29?
Can measure at the weekend but I’d say a good 30-40mm or so. I haven’t raised the BB with the flip chip and still have 140mm forks rather than the 150s SC recommend to prevent pedal strikes, but it feels very planted. Am getting some 160mm 36s so will flip the chip when I fit those.Posted 9 months ago
Good looking chub that 🙂
I’m debating risking my NN Apex 2.8 at BPW next week. I did order another Rekon from Italy of all places. £47 which is the mad world of chubs seems to represent ‘good value’
If that doesn’t turn up, I might dig out the somewhat second hand WTB ranger ‘tractor edition’ tough carcass. It is looking a bit sorry for itself after a week in Spain tho.
Be interesting to see how the mojo3 goes at BPW on the chubbies. Had it on the WideTrails last time there. Unless it’s raining in which case all bests are off!Posted 9 months ago
The Minion’s survived the Aston Hill Enduro (was dry thankfully) and were just brilliant. There was some pretty tricky off camber sections and they just gripped and gripped while lots of others slide and fell! A few times I got my lines wrong and they were so confidence inspiring that I could just lean it over and know it would find traction.
Very impressed so far although do need to gets some longer forks as had a LOT of pedal strikes.Posted 8 months ago
So Maxxis have brought out 29+ DHF and DHRII. Having seen the 27.5+ DHF, clearly these are going to be monsters. Eye watering Maxxis prices would be enough to put me off tho.
Having sung the praises of my NN after a rocky beating in Wales, it then went flat in the van. Pumped it up, went flat again. Stuck the new rekon on, pumped it up and it was rock solid. Did 7 runs of BPW without so much as a burp. Ran the rear a little harder, didn’t notice any reduction in grip.
Not sure I’ll go back to the NN as the rekon doesn’t roll that much slower. And I’m too lazy 😉Posted 8 months ago
Very pleased with my DHF front and Rekon rear combo for general riding at the moment. The DHF is mental, cannot believe what an extraordinary tyre it is. I’ve always been a fan of the standard versions of it, but the plus version is on a whole other level. Just booked up BPW again for 1st Aug so will probably put the DHR2 on the rear for that which means it’ll most likely stay on there after that.Posted 8 months agoGarry_LagerSubscriber
What pressures do you use at BPW on the B+, Alex and muggomagic, do you run them quite hard? I’ve been happy with WTB tyres for general riding on the transmitter, but I went round Llandegla with my boy and found the front horribly squirmy, like it would need a substantial increase over normal pressure. I wasn’t riding that hard, though, so don’t know if it was a case of getting used to it.Posted 8 months agofifeandyMember
I’d have thought the Rekon much faster rolling than the NN
Nah, looks like it should from the tread, but Maxxis rubber compounds invariably trade rolling speed for grip. Schwalbe and Conti tend to lean the other way and produce fast tyres, but perhaps not as grippy or robust as Maxxis.
iirc, rolling resistance data shows that an Ikon has around 50% more rolling resistance than a race king despite then having quite a similar design.Posted 8 months ago
@fifeandy – interesting. I’m still too lazy to change it back tho unless it feels super draggy. On my FlareMax I had the fast rolling WTB ranger on the back and Trail Boss on the front. Super fast, but not much use on anything but loam 😉
I’ve been happy with the NN. Seemed a good compromise of rolling speed/grip in corners and braking/strength/weight but I wouldn’t fancy it at say Antur or anywhere in the lakes or peaks.
What pressures do you use at BPW on the B+
Ibis recommend 16/16 in the supplied NN. I ran 18/17 at BPW having burped a tyre there before on my flare max. No issues all day. Not sure a couple of PSI makes any difference but it made me feel better!
I don’t find them squirmy at 16. Not on 41mm ext rims. Occasionally they feel like they ‘let go’ in a strange way but mostly what I experience is so much grip. Maybe I’m not riding them hard enough.Posted 8 months ago
fifeandy – Member
Nah, looks like it should from the tread, but Maxxis rubber compounds invariably trade rolling speed for grip.
I has a 2.8 Pacestar NN rear, replaced it with the 60a 2.8 Rekon and am definitely rolling faster. And the Rekon doesn’t piss air at the sight of a rock also, which is nicePosted 8 months ago
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