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  • 21 months “would send out a warning”?
  • Premier Icon aracer
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7865114.stm

    Anybody else think that’s a ridiculously short sentence? I remember reading about this one before and thinking she’d have the book thrown at her with the admission that she thought using a phone whilst driving was sometimes acceptable. It seems the judge thinks he has thrown the book at her, but I disagree.

    (apologies for the wrong forum – it seems that’s something you can’t edit when you realise as you hit the “post” button).

    djglover
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    And a longer sentence will achieve what?

    geetee1972
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    [/quote]And a longer sentence will achieve what?

    I think we call it justice. It is also known as deterent

    Sadly far too many people think that it’s perfectly acceptable to continue using mobile phones while driving. The evidence is that the net effect to concentration while driving and using a mobile phone is equivalent to being several times over the legal alcohol limit (as measured in reaction time).

    If the woman had been several times over the limit and killed some one do you think a 21 months sentence would be appropriate?

    A stronger sentence would have conveyed a greater sense of justice to the bereaved relatives and a stronger message to the public that this kind of behaviour is unacceptable.

    jon1973
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    I think the sentence is appropriate.

    djglover
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    21 months is enough of a deterant for me, sentence seems to be in line with what I would expect from gross negligence

    I personally dont think its anywhere near long enough – she knew what she did was illegal yet she disregarded the law continued to break the law and killed someone.

    It should be a manslaughter charge not death by dangerous driving at least, if she cant be done for murder.

    mt
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    Chop her phone hand off. Alternatively her phone ear. No cost to us for prison.

    Premier Icon aracer
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    It’s silly talk suggesting murder. However I do always wonder why motorists never get charged with manslaughter. Though even for death by dangerous driving the maximum sentence is 14 years, and the sentencing guidelines suggest at least 2 years for intermediate culpability (which the use of the phone surely was).

    hora
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    Love the photo on the story. Sorry, Im not helping here!

    Premier Icon BigDummy
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    21 months is a very, very long time for a young woman to spend in prison. For evil and vicious acts longer sentences may be right. For pathetic stupidity and thoughtlessness this doesn’t seem to be excessively lenient.

    😐

    geetee1972
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    LOL Hora – It’s kind of like that scene in Monty Python & The Holy Grail where they have Connie Booth dressed up as a witch in order to prove she is a witch!

    hora
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    Spot on!!!!!!!

    Premier Icon chakaping
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    She might have got a similar sentence if she’d been drunk anyway, no?

    The BBC cleverly seem to have neglected to include the charge she was convicted of, but the previous story reveals it as death by dangerous driving.

    Sentence doesn’t seem grossly inappropriate to me, but two years might have been better.

    sofatester
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    She has a mobile in her hand. Shes a witch, burn her 😈

    Premier Icon aracer
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    For pathetic stupidity and thoughtlessness

    Pathetic stupidity and thoughtlessness which resulted in somebody totally innocent dying? The question really is how long you’d get for killing somebody by letting off a shotgun accidentally because you were busy concentrating on something else as you waved the gun around.

    Don’t forget she’ll actually only spend 10.5 months in prison (possibly only 6.5 months, then tagging).

    hora
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    She has a mobile in her hand. Shes a witch

    Err not anymore. Shes in the clitclink now so two words needs amending on the above…

    djglover
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    The question really is how long you’d get for killing somebody by letting off a shotgun accidentally because you were busy concentrating on something else as you waved the gun around.

    Don’t forget she’ll actually only spend 10.5 months in prison (possibly

    Probably less, possibly even accidental death.

    uplink
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    My next door neighbour’s daughter was killed by a driver in similar circumstances
    She was on the hard shoulder & – for whatever reason – he failed to see her or her car & wandered into the hard shoulder & killed her
    He was convicted of causing death by dangerous driving & received 6.5 years

    More fitting sentence, I think

    grizzlygus
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    The BBC cleverly seem to have neglected to include the charge she was convicted of

    And yet again a cunning plan by the evil trotskyite, victim-hating, BBC do-gooders, is exposed by a STW Sun/Daily Mail reader.

    Premier Icon Coyote
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    Through arrogance and stupidity, she has killed another person. Prison is supposed to be a punishment as well as a deterrent. In that context a couple of years out of your life for completely depriving someone of theirs seems very lenient. Oh and the three year ban? Seeing as she’ll serve the first 18 months of that ban whilst she is inside that’s not much of a punishment either.

    RudeBoy
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    Connie Booth was lovely…

    andywhit
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    Using a mobile while driving should incur sentences in line with drink driving IMO.

    IanMunro
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    I’m impressed that they managed to get a photo of her on the phone:)
    My gut reaction in these sort of cases is just kill the person – they’re a waste of space and the world would be a better place without them. But a good society isn’t built on such sentiments, so i’ve no idea whether 21 months is lenient on excesive.

    Premier Icon scaredypants
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    “trouble” is, they can’t prove she was using the phone when she crashed, so instead I assume they did her for being the sort of **** that doesn’t look where they’re going

    given that, I’m surprised they got it as high as 21 months TBH

    silly (& I suspect lying) cow

    If your defence incorporates “i’m so stupid I didn’t look at what was in front of me” then you should never be allowed to drive again

    edit: – yeah, quality photo !

    slowmedown
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    photojournalism at its best

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