Yeah – I noticed that foil movement. I wasn’t sure if it was intentional or not.

It seems like Bruni is taking control from Spithill today? His has been the voice leading everything.

The commentary is embarrassing as everyone seems to be making excuses for AM. They just didn’t turn up to the races today. Problems or not that was embarrassing.

I noticed the ‘bouncing’ foil arm on AM too. I can’t believe it has some bounce by design, but it’s odd that it was so noticeable today and I haven’t seen it on any of the other boats.

I’m going for 4-0 to Italy – all wrapped up tomorrow and no racing on Sunday (again). And the US go home without winning a race after being the favourites for the Prada Cup!

But… we’ve seen comebacks before!

Spotted the AM foils bouncing too, I’m sure they will bounce a bit as there’s a limit to how stiff you can make them. The outboard wing seemed to be piercing the surface a lot, I guess that’s going to make some significant changes in loading as you make and break water flow.

My other though was air in the hydraulic actuator’s, if they haven’t bled the system properly that would make them bounce.

That Batwing main apart from looking ugly, didn’t seem to be working that well.

LR was looking nicely balanced.

My other though was air in the hydraulic actuator’s, if they haven’t bled the system properly that would make them bounce.

That’s what I thought but then decided that a multi-million £ campaign would probably have remembered to bleed the system!

It “may” be planned…. A form of suspension to keep loads stable.
🤷🏻‍♂️

Was it mentioned in the commentary?

Ventilating foils are not a good thing to have. Surface piercing foils have a long history of problems, I’m sure they’ve done their work however.
I didn’t notice the main foil wobble until it was pointed out. The vibration from the rudder was very noticible at the wheel though.
Interesting that the experts on the commentary team didn’t see any it.

Oh dear.
That’s a shame – I was hoping they’d get at least one win in.

How the mighty are fallen.

So did it look like they simply got the design wrong?
I never liked the look of the boat and they def had a control issue.
Having a technician that had to grind is bonkers as well.

So did it look like they simply got the design wrong?

They’ve been very fast at times. I think the main problem was that the boat was still broken in some parts.

Having a technician that had to grind is bonkers as well.

True – even if you meant tactician.

@eddiebaby

Ventilating foils are not a good thing to have. Surface piercing foils have a long history of problems, I’m sure they’ve done their work however.

I seem to recall that Sailrocket 2, world speed record holder, had to re-design its foils to deliberately cavitate (wedge-section with sharp leading edges or something like that) in order to go above ~50kts, but their blog isn’t responding. A bit like the way surface-piercing props are designed (or maybe not). And those foils were what I think you mean by “surface piercing”. With their extra weight and size, maybe these things are hitting that zone at lower speeds – any hydrodynamicists(?) on here?

There isn’t a judge boat..the judges do it all on land looking at all the feeds.

Just sayin

Leaving a trail of giant M%Ms to piss off the Yanks.

That Cross

I love some of the comments on that clip. The umpires made an on the water call, with all of their data input and experience and knowledge, (correctly in my eyes), then Ken and Nathan showed why in such detail, and others have also explained the rules, there are armchair experts who think that the combined knowledge and judgement of all of these actual experts is still wrong…lol

Interesting in the difference between the skill set of the pros and the non stop gobby shoutings of the commentary team

Can you clarify who these people are?
Are you saying that KR and NO are the latter?!

Yes. The guys I. The linked clip seem great. The live tv feed guys sound like they’d be just as happy with golf it NASCAR.

It’s the same guys doing the race commentary on YouTube.
I’ve not seen any other feeds though.

I’m amazed by that. All I hear in the race is blather with no insight, just the obvious.

Yes we do.

nope, another rule infringement could lead to a DSQ from one race. crazy that a boat protesting is able to overrule the measurement committee and lead directly to a potential penalty. Fair enough to protest, rule change/clarification, and everyone needs to then comply or be imposed a penalty.

Yes, the Italians have behaved like litigious tw@@s over this whole issue.

and over the running backstays rule (they don’t think they need them, everyone else does). they tried to claim that they could have them attached to the mast and rolled up in the sail, and that would be fine. they lost