I think JRM needs to further back else he’ll still have gaps in history

I think JRM needs to further back else he’ll still have gaps in history

They’re having to do all this in stages.

He’s still reeling from he whole welfare state and formation of the NHS thing. He’s been sat rocking back an too, gently sobbing for quite a few days now. Not even nanny can console him

FWIW, I used to like Diane many moons ago, before she sent her kids to private school whilst being ideologically opposed to them.

… and then fiercely berating anyone who had the temerity to point out that there might be an ickle bit of an inherent contradiction in this position.

Arron Banks twitter account has been hacked and leaked, squeaky bum time for many i hope

Boris Johnson to be replaced by Rishi Sunak in 7-way TV debate https://t.co/hIZk1hJqch

— FT UK Politics (@ftukpolitics) November 19, 2019

Well, there you go… PM to only do a USA style 2 person head to head… might as well call him Mr President now.

I agree with every word of this…

ICYMI: Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn says his party does not plan to nationalize massive parts of the U.K. economy, but focus more on economic growth pic.twitter.com/CifXilyffM

— QuickTake by Bloomberg (@QuickTake) November 19, 2019

…but it still feels like he’s actively trying to stop people listening to those words! Is it just me? Do I just need more coffee?

Did you see his speech* at the CBI yesterday?

Dear god! He looked like he was sedated. As I said on the previous page

Like a bored middle manager at a photocopier convention telling disinterested telesales staff about his companies latest developments in toner cartridges.

He’s been on auto-pilot for over 2 years now. I thought he might perk up a bit once the starting gun had been fired, as we keep being told he’s apparently ‘a natural campaigner’

Campaigning for what? Another mug of Ovaltine before the shipping forecast?

*the word is used figuratively in this instance

…but it still feels like he’s actively trying to stop people listening to those words! Is it just me? Do I just need more coffee?

Is the nationalisation program fake news now?

it’s not “anti-capitalism” as many excitedly claim, just bringing some monopoly providers of infrastructure and services back under public ownership.

It is, however, a stupid idea that is meant to appeal to misty eyed old socialists who remember the good old days of the TUC running the show.

There’s bigger things to focus on, this is a distraction. Maybe Brexit will be brought up tonight and Jez will just ignore it?

Lens contributions are always helpful.

For the Tory’s.

He puts a lot of time and effort into finding ever more imaginative ways of him and fellow multi-millionaire Jezza remaining in permanent opposition while still carrying on picking up their big salaries and infinite perks

Every time he opens his gob, Labours poll ratings take a 5% hit

We all decry personality politics and sound bite speeches, but when we see a video of a calm speech, saying really quite sensible, but not exciting things, we jump on the ‘OMGz! YAWN! SNOZEFEST!’ Bandwagon.

And when you say “We”, you mean Binners don’t you.

From C4 news last night, economic thinking is moving on from the free market idealism of the the 80s, 90s and 00s. Maybe we should be framing the free marketeers as the misty eyed nostalgics….

The bit at about 4:20 in from ex banker and Tory Treasury Minister is especially relevant if you don’t want to watch the full 15 mins

No, but it’s not “anti-capitalism” as many excitedly claim, just bringing some monopoly providers of infrastructure and services back under public ownership. Without competition, there is always a battle between the approaches of state regulation and state ownership to ensure delivery to all and prevent market abuse. In some areas, regulation proves not to be enough. We’ve had publically owned banks, post office, railway lines and railway services in recent years, without people asking “Communism?” Of course, it would be easier to explain all this without the likes or Milne&Murray&Co hanging around in the shadows…

Very glad Corbyn is emphasising growing the economy [just don’t mention Brexit].

It’s all yes/no/maybe … Yes enough to get pounced on and commie labels but no/maybe for the best part of 40% Labour voters that voted LEAVE.
How is this costed? Is it costed with remaining or leaving?

FWIW, I used to like Diane many moons ago, before she sent her kids to private school whilst being ideologically opposed to them.

My kids’ education trumps my political beliefs: I can’t speak for Abbott, but I’d take a deep breath and send my kids private if the only alternative was a particularly bad state school.

My kids’ education trumps my political beliefs: I can’t speak for Abbott, but I’d take a deep breath and send my kids private if the only alternative was a particularly bad state school.

Where do you think Dianne (or any other politician for that matter) lives? In the middle of some Jeremy Kyle sink estate? I doubt the schools in the vicinity of their homes are going to be hotbeds of teenage pregnancies, free school meals and knife crime.

And what percentage of Dianne’s constituents do you think would have the option of private schooling open to them?

They are stuffed with complete imbeciles, who’s only qualification for being in a senior position is their unquestioning loyalty to the idiot they refer to as their leader

on that note, out on my lunchtime run today, I very nearly ran into geoffrey cox and his ‘entourage’. fortunately I heard his ridiculous voice before I saw him. i thought it was a persona he put on for parliament but it seems not.

Most importantly what I don’t want to see is rushing into it and doing it badly.

Railways are already state owned. Are you talking about the services run on them? Where’s the “rushing”? Taking them into public hands when franchises end is the Labour plan, isn’t it? Remember the East Coast mainline services? What did they cost the UK state when publicly run for a few years, above what it was costing when in private hands?

I don’t have a problem with privately owned and rail services in some (many) circumstances, bu there are definitely routes that being failed year after year, with the government mostly shrugging and saying “not on us”. It is on the government. And taking franchises (I’d prefer it to be selective rather than rolled out everywhere) away from companies, and running them publicly, can’t come soon enough in some areas.

DA was on Any Questions on Fri- she wasn’t great.

I don’t have a problem with privately owned and rail services in some (many) circumstances, bu there are definitely routes that being failed year after year,

That’s all very well, but it would be (already is in parts of the rail network, the prison service, and the NHS) privatisation of profit and nationalisation of losses. Why should you and I effectively subsidise shareholder profits through our taxes because they want to cherry pick the juicy contracts?