Apologies. My understanding was that the LDs, if they had got into power, would have cancelled A50, with no further reference to the electorate. I accept that to stop Brexit we have to revoke A50. I think the only acceptable way of sanctioning that is via a second referendum.

They would. On the basis that if they won a majority with a clear policy of revoke then that was in effect a mandate to revoke.

They may have slightly overestimated their support level hence the pivoting to supporting a second referendum…

I used to have a lot of respect for Robert Peston, but throughout this election he's been so far up Boris Johnson's arse he can see Laura Kuenssberg's feet.

— Chris Brookmyre (@cbrookmyre) December 9, 2019

If the Labour Party didn’t have such a bloody stupid ‘red unicorns’ position themselves they could be hammering this home

Corbyn did in the debate the other night. Several times.

Next.

Because their job is to report the news? Having listened to many podcasts with KL on them, it’s clear she’s no fan of the current Tory press machine, as many other journalists have expressed, they all realise they’re being fed stuff by both sides. Report it, and folk like you think she’s a stooge, don’t report it, and the Tory party it becomes the Liberal BBC Bias, and it becomes their story all day.

Can’t win.

I agree I don’t think she’s conciously biased but I do think she should be publicly naming the senior Tories who fed the lies

At the risk of getting into this yet again, they’re not proposing we stay in THE customs union, it’s A customs union (whatever that means), and they’re not proposing staying in the single market, they’re talking about ‘close alignment’ with the single market (whatever that means).

So we will need to negotiate a trade agreement.

I doubt Boris will be fighting the next election even if he wins a majority Thursday which is far from a certainty.

If indeed there are ever any more General Elections (Tory manifesto page 42).

Once Cummings has sorted everything the next election will be a Mugabe type affair where Boris gets 128% of the vote

They should be naming them because its newsworthy. “Senior Tory lied to journalists to deflect from NHS debacle” is a story in itself. Jesus Christ if Corbyn told a lie he’d be answering questions about it in every interview for the next ten years.

If indeed there are ever any more General Elections (Tory manifesto page 42).

Fisheries, farming and coastal communities?

https://vote.conservatives.com/our-plan

We’ve definitely crossed a line with this election, and it’s got Cummings fingerprints all over it. We’re into Bannon/Trump territory of just blatantly making shit up. The media in this country need to wise up and start reporting this new ‘reality’ for what it is and start calling out these lies and stunts

Don’t forget freedom of movement, Molgrips.

The resolution warns against any trade-off between security and the future EU-UK economic relationship, opposes any sort of cherry picking or a piecemeal economic relationship based on sector-specific deals, and reiterates the indivisibility of the four freedoms of the single market – free movement of goods, capital, services, and people.

What Labour wants is unacceptable. You can’t stay in the single market without freedom of movement. Binners is right, negotiations on trade start when Britain leaves and not before.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20170329IPR69054/red-lines-on-brexit-negotiations

Edit: oh and we pulled the plug tonight. This election was my last hope that Brexit might never happen. The polls now tell me it will. The pound is at levels that reflect polls predict a large Tory majority and there’s been some short covering before the election. We sold half our sterling assets before the referendum and today is the best post referendum rate I’ve had so all the rest went bar some petty cash. I’ve lost hope/faith and from here on in I’m just a detatched observer with nothing to lose.

And then we’ll wake up.

I see the Guardian have already rolled out Corbyns political obituary –

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/09/corbyn-plays-all-the-old-favourites-in-bristol-but-no-ones-dancing

Angela Rayner is playing a blinder here, especially with Tory Boy.

She’s obviously being groomed for the succession. Should have done it 2 years ago

I can’t watch QT at the moment, but I’ve read she’s being ripped apart on brexit.

Hardly surprising. The whole ‘honest broker’ red unicorns nonsense is a total farce. Jeremy still sat on his fence

It’s like the thing they do on Fighting Talk on a Saturday morning on five live where for 2 minutes they have to ‘defend the indefensible’

It’s interesting watching the man frog on QT. Because it’s a young audience, he can barely disguise his contempt for them. He’s not even trying. He knows his audience. Racist pensioners

At the risk of getting into this yet again, they’re not proposing we stay in THE customs union, it’s A customs union (whatever that means), and they’re not proposing staying in the single market, they’re talking about ‘close alignment’ with the single market (whatever that means).

As much as I’ve teased Binners in the past, he’s bang on the money here.

Also, that Chris Brookmyre tweet ^^ is a shocker.

That Graun article linked above is a gem of journalism.

Debbonaire looked round helplessly. Where was the headline act? Someone behind her shrugged. Haven’t a clue, mate. In desperation, Debbonaire ad-libbed some of the highlights of her own set that she had delivered just minutes earlier. “Who wants a Labour government?” “Is Boris a liar?” In an ideal world, the crowd would have responded by singing Bon Jovi’s, “Woah, We’re half way there / Woah, Thangham Debbonaire.” But, sadly, this was no Richard Curtis romcom.

HTF did JS become leader of the LDs?

QT audiences are always carefully selected to balance views.

Ray ban has it and whilst being a bit of a wimp in a confrontation and not to condone violence I really wanted plaid guy to swing in a big left to put froggy on his arse and rayner could have gone for a double elbow to Tory boy and froggy what a shower of shyte were all doomed captain