2013/14 Rugby Thread
Wrecker – been very impressed by Wallace from what I’ve seen of him. seem to remember England taking an age to pick Back because they got wrapped up in the whole size issue and forgot to look at what he brought to the team in other areas.Posted 4 years ago
Not suggesting that Wallace is the answer just think they are wrapped up in the whole big is best mentality still.
So D day passed with no agreement between regions and WRU, quelle surprise
So now the WRU are going to set up new regions? WTF people reluctantly bought into that idea can’t see them doing it again. Where are they going to play? Who is going to play for them.
I hope one is called the Flamingos, i would support a team called the flamingos, they could be based in Torfaen. Oooh think about it The Torfaen Flamingos, it’s the future.Posted 4 years ago
That was never going to end well,still won’t no matter where the Welsh end up. Surely threatening to create new regional sides is going to force the clubs hands,why can’t the WRU fund the pro teams and accept that they are the figurehead of the game and have a positive impact on the national side,profit or not? We do,it will be a cold day in hell before either of the Scottish sides break even,but the SRU swallow it. The Irish do as well,even though the provinces have been embraced by the supporters.Posted 4 years ago
The Irish do as well,even though the provinces have been embraced by the supporters.
The key difference duckie being that provincial rugby in Ireland has quite a bit of history before Rabo/Pro/BeerCup. With the arrival of European rugby though, the interest certainly went up and the fans went to the grounds in numbers to watch. Even Connaught are improving somewhat. Provincial rugby has been fantastic for the green machine, instead of depending on a lucky crop of players to come together every few decades to have something to shout about.
I suppose Wales winning a few grand slams without the regions being successful means the fans have to be convinced in other ways to embrace the regions. Generally rugby fans in Ireland will nail their colours to two masts – their province and their national side, with some die-hards also supporting their individual club sides.
What’s the story with Welsh fans? Can the national side keep delivering GS and 6N trophies without the regions being successful? How have they managed to be so successful in recent years with the regions being in the doldrums? (Qs for the welsh contingent)Posted 4 years ago
IMO I don’t think the regions have been bad for the game in Wales quite the opposite. Graham Henry was the driving force behind the regions and he knew something about rugby 😆
I am happy for our stars to go overseas as it means the young players get blooded in Rabo games.
The public like the regions in general Parc y Scarlets is heaving when big games come along, it is just that the Rabo doesn’t give you that many big games. I think ticket prices are to high.
Ospreys have done ok won the league a few times. The glaring problem is with European success, Wales has had very little. How many English clubs have won it? Ireland have done very well in Europe why is that? Lots of foreign players? Tax breaks so wages are higher? You tell me DD?Posted 4 years ago
Honours even though apart from the Wasps victory a few years back, Ireland and France have lorded it for the last decade. English clubs were successful in the early years of the competition when the likes of Leicester cheated their way to victory a few times. 😆
Interestingly, the French normally provide the losing finalist.Posted 4 years ago
Welsh regions have done a good job of bringing on welsh talent (and english and tongan ;-). ) missed out on the Vunipolas though. Its just the rabo does not provide any attraction for sponsors or fans and the welsh regions get less cash than either the scottish or irish teams. The lack of wru funding and lack of decent games has meant any investors have drifted away. The rabo is stuck in a positive feedback loop of decline as welsh stars leave so do the fans then the irish teams send over Leinster b who still beat the blues and more fans drift off.Posted 4 years ago
One advantage of the rabo is that it rests international players. Sexton played 10 games last season,so far he has played 13 this year. Take somebody like Warburton who is a bit easily broken,will French rugby not,while improving intensity,reduce the number of players available. We have had a similar situation with Beattie/Strokosch.Posted 4 years ago
BlindMelon – Member
Suppose you need to worry…make sure you qualify for the next round.
20 point clear lead to finish a relieved 29-19. That’s a great result for the orangemen over their more successful provincial cousins. I think we’ll be alright for the next round (famous last words)…Ulster look like they will too…just normally expect an early capitulation from them shorty after. 🙂
Now how does the song go again?
“Sing when yer winnin’, ye only sing when…”Posted 4 years ago
Whether I was confident or not, I wouldn’t choose to have any of my money riding on a game a_a, much less the prospect of donating to a charity not of my own choosing. I have my own reasons for this, but I don’t feel any less masculine for them. Let’s just leave it there ok?Posted 4 years ago
You should try running round the fat lads georgePosted 4 years ago
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