2013/14 Rugby Thread
Time for a rugby music petition? Can we find Scotland a decent anthem and ban swing low, sweet chariot at England matches.
After that sack the Scotland marketing muppet who signed this kit contract. How can anything make England’s purple nightmare look good.Posted 4 years ago
I felt sorry for the Argentina forward who tackled Phillips when he had his hands on the ball and gave away a penalty for offside. Phillips did have his hands on the ball, the replays showed this and the Argentina player said this. The referees reply wasn’t to ignore it or march Argentina back 10 for back chat, instead he said something along the lines of “I don’t care if he had his hands on the ball, I don’t want you taking any chances, don’t come round in future”
I saw this, the argies pointed out that Phillips had his hands on the ball and IIRC the ref said something like “doesn’t matter, it wasn’t out”. In the eng/NZ game the ref had a completely different opinion and called that the ball was out as soon as the 9 put a hand on it. Very confusing.Posted 4 years ago
Just seen this apparently Eastmond chucked it in and went home at half timePosted 4 years agoDanWMember
I saw this, the argies pointed out that Phillips had his hands on the ball and IIRC the ref said something like “doesn’t matter, it wasn’t out”. In the eng/NZ game the ref had a completely different opinion and called that the ball was out as soon as the 9 put a hand on it. Very confusing.
When the 9 has hands on the ball in a ruck it is ball out whereas the 9 can have hands on at the base of a scrum without it being out, the ball is only out when it is beyond the back foot (of course when the ball is beyond the back foot in a ruck it is also out)… does this sound right to those with more rugby knowledge?Posted 4 years ago
Also when did the rules change to make the home team, rather than the away team, change strip in the event of a clash.
It’s always been that way in Rugby although nowadays they sometimes agree to part with convention (to sell more shirts).
Although what big jim did was legal, I can’t see how it can remain so. Someone’s going to get their shit severely ****ed up soon.Posted 4 years agoCaptainFlashheartMember
I’m getting increasingly riled with shirt changes, notable in the HC as well.
There should only ever be a shirt change if there’s a clash. So, for example, when Wales play Tonga, and both are in red, one changes. When Scotland play France, both dark blue, so a change, etc.
Just changing to an away strip willy nilly is marketing guff and annoying. Even more so when some of the away shirts are so chuffing horrid!Posted 4 years agoDanWMember
Dan; soon as hand(s) are on the ball the scrum/ruck/maul is over and the person playing it becomes the offside line. However if you wildly swing a foot at the ball as it is getting played expect to be offside 8)
So does that basically mean that it is so hard to referee that area that refs would rather not have anyone challenge for the ball as soon as the 9 get hands on otherwise everything would become quite messy?
On the subjects of referees, although I did not catch all of the game, the team in charge of the Eng/ NZ game seemed to do a far better job than some of the others we have seen this November. Easy to criticize but I think some credit is due to them (unless those that watched the full game feel otherwise of course 😀 )Posted 4 years ago
I wasnt (as) worried by ling purple, ( thanks for the explanation) it was the ghastly turquoise. But I’m with flashy on the shirts thing. Ditto all the fireworks and other crap that seem to be part and parcel of modern international. It’s not the bloody X factor.
But I must be old, it was always away team to bring extra shirt in case of a clash in my day. Note that fAlshy calls them Away strips which is a hint that may be he is as old as me!!!!!Posted 4 years ago
Duckman; if you’re caught on the wrong side of a ruck and prone with your arms up (so as to demonstrate that you’re not interfering) as you cannot roll away or remove yourself from the ruck; is there any reason you could not communicate to your team mates when the opposing 9 has hands on the ball? Is it bad form?Posted 4 years ago
Dan; in theory you could grab the 9, in practise he is moving as he takes the ball and will be protected by his own forwards. Swinging a boot is usually pinged as dangerous play. Wrecker,yell away; the ball will be in the 10’s hands before anybody can react. Ever tried calling the ball into the scrum as a wing forward, “ready,ready…aw crap” 😆Posted 4 years agotoys19Member
Dean Ryan’s analysis of England’s performance is spot on here.
PS- I don’t monitor club rugby so much, I wonder who is in contention to usurp Tom Youngs as our replacement hooker, unless he improves his accuracy I don’t want to see him the 6N..Posted 4 years ago
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