Gosh – you expect SA to win easily, but that just looked far too straightforward for them. I mean it was obvious what they were going to do, and they just did it.
Sad to see Van der Westhuizen has motor neurone disease. I thought he was a great player. Expect the springboks will give him a win to watch today. Still more in hope than expectation Come on SCOTLAND!
I have two options; it’s our ball, we take it and walk away, match abandoned. Plan b; we are quite close to the bar; a few pints and it won’t matter: this is going to go VERY badly for us.
I felt sorry for the Argentina forward who tackled Phillips when he had his hands on the ball and gave away a penalty for offside. Phillips did have his hands on the ball, the replays showed this and the Argentina player said this. The referees reply wasn’t to ignore it or march Argentina back 10 for back chat, instead he said something along the lines of “I don’t care if he had his hands on the ball, I don’t want you taking any chances, don’t come round in future”
I saw this, the argies pointed out that Phillips had his hands on the ball and IIRC the ref said something like “doesn’t matter, it wasn’t out”. In the eng/NZ game the ref had a completely different opinion and called that the ball was out as soon as the 9 put a hand on it. Very confusing.
I saw this, the argies pointed out that Phillips had his hands on the ball and IIRC the ref said something like “doesn’t matter, it wasn’t out”. In the eng/NZ game the ref had a completely different opinion and called that the ball was out as soon as the 9 put a hand on it. Very confusing.
When the 9 has hands on the ball in a ruck it is ball out whereas the 9 can have hands on at the base of a scrum without it being out, the ball is only out when it is beyond the back foot (of course when the ball is beyond the back foot in a ruck it is also out)… does this sound right to those with more rugby knowledge?
Dan; soon as hand(s) are on the ball the scrum/ruck/maul is over and the person playing it becomes the offside line. However if you wildly swing a foot at the ball as it is getting played expect to be offside 8)
I’m getting increasingly riled with shirt changes, notable in the HC as well.
There should only ever be a shirt change if there’s a clash. So, for example, when Wales play Tonga, and both are in red, one changes. When Scotland play France, both dark blue, so a change, etc.
Just changing to an away strip willy nilly is marketing guff and annoying. Even more so when some of the away shirts are so chuffing horrid!
Dan; soon as hand(s) are on the ball the scrum/ruck/maul is over and the person playing it becomes the offside line. However if you wildly swing a foot at the ball as it is getting played expect to be offside 8)
So does that basically mean that it is so hard to referee that area that refs would rather not have anyone challenge for the ball as soon as the 9 get hands on otherwise everything would become quite messy?
On the subjects of referees, although I did not catch all of the game, the team in charge of the Eng/ NZ game seemed to do a far better job than some of the others we have seen this November. Easy to criticize but I think some credit is due to them (unless those that watched the full game feel otherwise of course 😀 )
I wasnt (as) worried by ling purple, ( thanks for the explanation) it was the ghastly turquoise. But I’m with flashy on the shirts thing. Ditto all the fireworks and other crap that seem to be part and parcel of modern international. It’s not the bloody X factor.
But I must be old, it was always away team to bring extra shirt in case of a clash in my day. Note that fAlshy calls them Away strips which is a hint that may be he is as old as me!!!!!
Duckman; if you’re caught on the wrong side of a ruck and prone with your arms up (so as to demonstrate that you’re not interfering) as you cannot roll away or remove yourself from the ruck; is there any reason you could not communicate to your team mates when the opposing 9 has hands on the ball? Is it bad form?
Dan; in theory you could grab the 9, in practise he is moving as he takes the ball and will be protected by his own forwards. Swinging a boot is usually pinged as dangerous play. Wrecker,yell away; the ball will be in the 10’s hands before anybody can react. Ever tried calling the ball into the scrum as a wing forward, “ready,ready…aw crap” 😆
Must be some culture there that Deans allowed to develop. I mean guys in rehab or at London Irish that would suggest to the rest that getting on the lash while on national duty isn’t going to be tolerated anymore.
PS- I don’t monitor club rugby so much, I wonder who is in contention to usurp Tom Youngs as our replacement hooker, unless he improves his accuracy I don’t want to see him the 6N..
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