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  • 2009 Singletrack Reader Awards – VOTE NOW!
  • Premier Icon Ben_Haworth
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    Your nominations have been sifted through and we’ve drawn up the finalists for each category.

    The great thing about our awards is that they are entirely reader based, so it’s all about you and your experiences, so the results aren’t dictated by any bureaucratic back-handers.

    NB: You can only vote once. You can click on images to go to manufacturers’ site. The “Best Feature” finalists are available to read online (again, click the icons to investigate).

    Click here to go to the online voting page.

    Premier Icon Drac
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    Premier Icon Ben_Haworth
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    Premier Icon Ben_Haworth
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    Ta x 2 😉

    nbt
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    Was I too fast? I voted at about 10am!

    Premier Icon Drac
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    Good for you.

    Premier Icon GavinB
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    I appear to mostly have 'no opinion'!

    Sorry, but I can't really give a comparison between three different products unless I've tried all three – otherwise I'd just be giving an opinion from other people's opinions on here… 😯

    I mean, 18 Bikes is a great shop, but no idea if they're any better or worse than any of the others.

    Premier Icon Mark
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    So what's your point?

    I don;t mean that in a facetious way.. Genuinely asked..

    🙂

    Premier Icon nuke
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    Done.

    Surprised to see Nirvana cycles in Best Bike Shop

    jojoA1
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    I think we would be ok to just vote for the option you know. Otherwise there will be very few votes for some of the categories.

    nbt
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    Mark – Administrator

    So what's your point?

    I don;t mean that in a facetious way.. Genuinely asked..

    I was thinking the same as Gavin. It's more of a popularity contest than a case of "this is better than that", but that's not a bad thing – if anything that's the point? If I genuinely like something, I'll vote for it – e.g. I think lee quarry is ace, so that got a vote, or if I hate something I'll not vote for it (Hi dan :lol:). MOst were "no opinion" though.

    One thing, when I go back now, it says I've voted and can't vote again which is fine – can you display out what I voted for?

    PeterPoddy
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    I appear to mostly have 'no opinion'!

    Sorry, but I can't really give a comparison between three different products unless I've tried all three – otherwise I'd just be giving an opinion from other people's opinions on here…

    I mean, 18 Bikes is a great shop, but no idea if they're any better or worse than any of the others.

    I was pretty much the same

    Why?
    Hope Hoops and Garmin GPS are hardly 'new products' are they?
    I wouldn't buy any of the bikes listed in either catergory
    I didn't do any of those events
    Shops – Is Nirvana Cycles the one in Westcott? I wouldn't give them the steam off my wee after the woman in there was rude to me the only time I ever went in, and I don't know the other shops.

    etc….

    EDIT
    Actually I lied. I've been to Biketreks a couple of times and they are very helpful. I voted for them.

    AndyP
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    I appear to mostly have 'no opinion'!
    Likewise, but I can't see a problem with that? It'd be a bit wierd if you HAD to vote for something you knew nothing about.

    Premier Icon Drac
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    Is that not the whole point of them adding no opinion to the votes, if you have no experience if the products or places you can just opt for that.

    Premier Icon GavinB
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    Yeah, fair points back at me.
    I was just a bit surprised (at myself mostly) that I had no direct knowledge of half the pieces of kit, or the events etc. I just wondered how many people were voting for things they'd never ridden.

    Premier Icon Mad Pierre
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    I was pretty much no opinion on most too.

    So what happens if "no opinion" wins all the categories? 😉

    gingerflash
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    yeah, mostly no opinion here.

    Even though I know and like biketreks, it still doesn't seem right to vote for them as better than two other shops I've never visited (although I did anyway).

    It is just a popularity contest: great things people know little about aren't going to get as many votes as good things that are well known.

    Mind you, it's the Singletrack awards, not the Nobel or Oscars. Does it really matter that much?

    Premier Icon GavinB
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    Mind you, it's the Singletrack awards, not the Nobel or Oscars. Does it really matter that much?

    True! 🙂

    Gary_M
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    As above I seem to be mainly 'no opinion'. I can hardly vote for 3 bike shops I've never been in, nor can I vote on best new bike when I haven't tried them. Best trail centre – I can vote for the one I've been to.

    Do people just generally vote for whatever they think is most fashionable?

    Where does the shortlist come from?

    soma_rich
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    I cant believe the Big Bike Bash was an option for best event 🙁

    Premier Icon Drac
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    I cant believe the Big Bike Bash was an option for best event

    I guess those who went didn't nominate it enough.

    Premier Icon lowey
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    IS this a good time to open the trail centre vs trail debate ?

    Premier Icon Mark
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    I'd say it's a perfect time 🙂

    Debate away 🙂

    GEDA
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    Whats the point?

    How can you have a readers award with only three things in each category? To be totally cynical, but probably hopefully wrong, it all looks like some advertising rubbish. I have honestly never seen in the flesh any of the choices never mind used them and I doubt many of the people on here have either.

    Well at least it will look dum when the results come out.. and the winner is "I have no opinion."

    Premier Icon Baldysquirt
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    Isn't the point that we, the Singletrack Readership, nominated the items in each category. I sent a nomination in, and a number of those I nominated are in the final list. That means I can vote for things I do have experience of. I assume that only nominated things got into the categories, so some people on here must have wanted to see them included.

    Premier Icon Drac
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    How can you have a readers award with only three things in each category?

    As that's the final nominations from the ones readers nominated, you did nominate didn't you?

    Premier Icon lowey
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    OK, how does Lee Quarry hope to compete in the category of Best Trail Center given your criteria :-

    Best UK Trail Centre
    Which trail center has given you the best blend of fantastic riding, facilities and overall enjoyment in the past year?

    Given that description, I would have thought that you are precluding some of the best man made stuff around. The award will no doubt go to Glentress again, not because of just the trails, but it has a cafe, bike shop, showers etc etc.

    All I was suggesting was maybe a category of best man made trail (not center) which would open things up for the like of Gisburn, Penmachno, Lee Qaurry etc etc…

    I dont buy the line that "this maybe the incentive they need to build better facilities". Personally, I would much rather see the money spent on more trails rather that a posh cafe serving overpriced coffee.

    Anyway, thats my 2 cents… I;m sure everyone will rightly have their own opinion.

    Premier Icon Baldysquirt
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    lowey, isn't it up to those who are voting to assess what they see as the most important elements of that category. Fantastic riding comes well above anything else for me, so I voted with that in mind. That's the point, surely.

    Premier Icon Drac
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    Good point Lowey but yet it still made it to the final 3, Glentress is hugely popular so nearly always wins. I voted for Lee Quarry as what it has done in such a small area is very impressive and has made good use of land that was pretty much wasted.

    Premier Icon vinnyeh
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    All I was suggesting was maybe a category of best man made trail (not center) which would open things up for the like of Gisburn, Penmachno, Lee Qaurry etc etc…

    Most of the trails ie bridleways etc in this country are manmade. Purpose built would be a better category name in my opinion, or better still, would be a worthwhile addition as a new category. I've ridden some cracking purpose built stuff this year that wouldn't (shouldn't) get a look in in the existing category due to lack of facilities.

    mt
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    18 bikes by what measure is it better than loads of other shops in the country?

    Premier Icon Ben_Haworth
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    MT – people sent in lots of nominations for it. Is that a satisfactory measure for it? 🙂

    Gary_M
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    people sent in lots of nominations for it

    Roughly speaking how many nominations is 'lots'. I'd be interested to know how many nominations it takes to get on the shortlist.

    Does anyone take these nominations seriously apart from the winners? By that I mean would it sway you in any way to buy a product. Or is it just a bit of fun?

    Premier Icon Sim
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    Does anyone take these nominations seriously apart from the winners? By that I mean would it sway you in any way to buy a product. Or is it just a bit of fun?

    On a website dedicated to riding bicycles over hills in the mud whilst wearing lycra and polystyrene seriousness is pretty realtive 🙂

    Gary_M
    Member

    So thats a 'no' then.

    Premier Icon Drac
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    I'd be interested to know how many nominations it takes to get on the shortlist.

    More than those that didn't make it is my guess.

    wors
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    I'd be interested to know how many nominations it takes to get on the shortlist.

    why?

    Premier Icon Harry_the_Spider
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    Aren’t people reading a bit too much into this?

    If the shortlist is dictated by a website user's secret ballot and you disagree with the outcome then I’m afraid it’s tough.

    Recognition from your peers is nice and means a lot more to some people than others. Me, Terrahawk, TheOriginalPunkRockDad and RammyRunner made it to the final three last year and winning the trophy would have meant an awful lot to us. As it happens we lost out to the World’s at Fort William and the UCI didn’t send anybody to Hebden Bridge on a wet Friday night to pick up the prize. We went, we had a good time and we had a chat to the chaps from the mag and a few other people. We got over it.

    Would an award to Ragley mean more to them than it would to Garmin or Specialized?… Dunno.

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