£1800 for a frame……madness!!
DrP I looked at the prices of new frames recently and it is ridiculous.
I was reading a mag article in this weekends Times about breaking/salvage of Boeing 737’s and a 7yr old 737 can be worth 12m in one piece or 18m if broken up/sold for parts etc.
One of the smallest returns was the actual aluminium – apparently the whole lot can sometimes go for $3,000-4,000. 😯
Slightly OT but the majority of a frame is alu…the rest is marketing and markup after the shock is taken out of the equation…lets face it a 2k frame will have a £300-400 shock?Posted 5 years ago
I have come to the conclusion that buying frames alone is not economically viable – particularly if you end-up having to replace components that are not compatable with your new frame.
better to buy the complete bike and flog your old one – or swap your current (and compatable) components onto the new frame, and sell the parts it came with “as new”.
I foresee a spreadsheet in your future….Posted 5 years agosi-wilsonMember
Depends what brands you are looking at.
I suspect you are only looking at the brands with healthy marketing budgets and hype, hence the reason you know about them and hence why they are expensive, see the problem?
A few options around from the likes of On One and myself 🙂Posted 5 years agogmandavisonMember
I personally think bikes are a rip off, I just can’t get my head around how they justify the price tags on times. I recently built a bike and made massive savings buying older parts still from the likes of CRC but to buy the bike new I could go out and buy a 2nd and 1000cc superbike which too as an aluminium frame, and allot more aluminium at that.Posted 5 years agoRusty SpannerSubscriber
What’s wrong with Boardman, Giant or Canyon bikes?
Seem to ride just as well as the boutique stuff at a fraction of the cost.
If you want a 2k frame, fine, if you like to be a bit different, express your personality through brand image and are willing to pay for it then go for it.
Bet most people couldn’t tell the difference in a blind test. 😀
Not aimed at the OP by the way.Posted 5 years ago
When I was looking at replacement frames, I was pretty shocked to see how short the warrantee’s are – I would think that paying almost 2 grand for a frame would get you a bit longer than what lots of companies are offering.
Voted with my feet in the end, and bought a RosePosted 5 years ago
I wonder what the economics of “donor” bikes are?
Eg: if you bought a basic spec Santa Cruz, and swapped the components with a high-spec, compatable Canyon. Leaving you with a high-spec Santa Cruz to keep, and a basic spec Canyon to sell-on.
I suspect you’d probably be a few hundred quid better-off. Anyone done this?Posted 5 years ago
yet plenty of people still seem to lap them up…
And you also assume that by adding an extra £20 CNC’d lump of aluminium and 10 more bearings, justifies extra cost. Single pivot isn’t out-dated, it’s different, and sells a lot of frames on it’s strengths. I’ve owned a DW link bike and a few FSRs, I like the single pivot lot the best.
Unless you meant elastomers on a unified rear triangle or something obviously 😛Posted 5 years agostewartcSubscriber
Just updated my frame to a Blur TRc, have to admit I was a little shocked at the initial price and if it wasnt for the fact I could swap 95% of my existing components across I would NOT have purchased it.Posted 5 years ago
To make matters worst I could only get 500GBP for my 9 month old ASR-5 frame, so for best value my next purchase will be a nearly new second hand complete bike.bwaarpMember
Yeti 575 frame – 1499
Orange 5 frame – 1395 (which surprises me as it’s cheaper than many frames made in Taiwan)
NS Soda – 1287 (For something a bit freeridey)
Pace RC-606 18″ frame – 1000
Nukeproof Mega frame – 899
Titus El Gaupo frame – 799Posted 5 years agoSaccadesMember
I was looking at lightville as one of my mates was raving about them (he had a go on one in the Alps recently), my 40th is 2 years away and I was thinking about treating myself to something a bit nice and their warrenty is a phenomenal 5 + 5 years on the bike (not owner) for manufacturing and crashes etc.
When I finally discovered the price for the Al frame in it’s shortest travel version was 2K yoyos (price was hidden on the low left of the bumf list) I quickly went back to probably getting a Custom Ti Hardtail instead.
I’m surprised at the low price of the 5 considering it’s built in the UK.Posted 5 years agoHadgeMember
Remember, everyone from the maker to supplier has to have their cut to make a living – that’s life isn’t it. There are bargains to be had if you look round. My 2010 5 Spot was just over a grand new but now they’re up to over £1,500 for the same year!Posted 5 years ago
Second hand year old frames make good sense as you can get them at roughly half price. If they’ve been well looked after then I’d go down that route which I have many times before.
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