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									STW Art Club – “Draw a Giraffe or Wild Animal ” [27/1/2012 to 3/2/2012] - Chat Forum				            </title>
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                        <title>Re: STW Art Club – “Draw a Giraffe or Wild Animal ” </title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[There aint no rules.
Only not to talk about Art Club :-)]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I've got to stop using photos for reference?</p>
<p>Aah crap, I was enjoying drawing then too. Still, if them's the rules.... </p>
<p>There aint no rules.</p>
<p>Only not to talk about Art Club :-)
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[that tiger tank is ACE! GEDA is right though, reproducing a flat 2d image is not a good way to learn how to draw or express yourself. But this isn&#039;t an art class it&#039;s just a bit of a laugh.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that tiger tank is ACE! GEDA is right though, reproducing a flat 2d image is not a good way to learn how to draw or express yourself. But this isn't an art class it's just a bit of a laugh.
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                        <title>Re: STW Art Club – “Draw a Giraffe or Wild Animal ” </title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[So I&#039;ve got to stop using photos for reference?
Aah crap, I was enjoying drawing then too. Still, if them&#039;s the rules....]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I've got to stop using photos for reference?</p>
<p>Aah crap, I was enjoying drawing then too. Still, if them's the rules....
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                        <title>Re: STW Art Club – “Draw a Giraffe or Wild Animal ” </title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[well I would say that you&#039;re wrong.. one cannot begin to hope to get an art degree and thus a foot on the first rung, without first demonstrating a very clear and concerted effort to underst...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say it is not. The establishment, for example Saatchi promotes artists that are "innovative" and claim to be doing ground breaking stuff</p>
<p>well I would say that you're wrong.. one cannot begin to hope to get an art degree and thus a foot on the first rung, without first demonstrating a very clear and concerted effort to understand and emulate the works and techniques of those that have gone before..</p>
<p>thus making one's way in the establishment requires the formula that you subscribe to.. at least at a grass roots level..</p>
<p>It's the very reason that I couldn't get to grips with art school as a temperamental and haughty young man as I was far too busy trying to be original..</p>
<p>as for being the 'best' or only way to draw properly.. well I'm sure that's not for any of us to say.. (although I'll certainly be giving it a try..  :-) )</p>
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                        <title>Re: STW Art Club – “Draw a Giraffe or Wild Animal ” </title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve added all the pix to gallery post here :-)]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've added all the pix to gallery post here :-)</p>
<p>http://stwartclub.wordpress.com/2012/01/27/stw-art-club-design-a-logobanner-for-art-club-2712012-to-322012/
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yes, let&#039;s leave the pretentious bullshit to this thread.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, let's leave the pretentious bullshit to this thread.
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Next theme.  Great drawings this week and also a piece of installation art  8OHave fun.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next theme.  Great drawings this week and also a piece of installation art  8O</p>
<p>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/stw-art-club-%E2%80%93-%E2%80%9Cdraw-a-dragon-or-your-chinese-new-year-sign-%E2%80%9D-322012-to-102</p>
<p>Have fun.
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[When did I say that using a camera inhibits creativity? The opposite really. I use a camera but copying photos on its own is in its nature one dimensional. I can see why you might feel defen...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did I say that using a camera inhibits creativity? The opposite really. I use a camera but copying photos on its own is in its nature one dimensional. I can see why you might feel defensive if you are a professional photo realist artist. All I said to begin with was you will learn a lot more by copying other artists than copying a photo.
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Reading books is ok, some people write books &amp; know of the people who you mention. I know some would tell you to &#039;think forward, not be trapped by the medium&#039;]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading books is ok, some people write books &amp; know of the people who you mention. I know some would tell you to 'think forward, not be trapped by the medium'
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[It is pointless. This is stw art club.
You also being presumptuous in how some of the work here is produced, and are wrong. For the record Saatchi is also a fan of the realist movement and i...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>which is what I am saying is a bit pointless. </p>
<p>It is pointless. This is stw art club.<br />
You also being presumptuous in how some of the work here is produced, and are wrong. For the record Saatchi is also a fan of the realist movement and includes some in his collection, not that that means much but does demonstrate there is more to it than you are seeing.
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